Trackers - why bother?
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Jon1967x

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8,188 posts

154 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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I must be missing the point and I apologise if its been asked and answered lots of times before but best quote for renewal with tracker is £410 - best quote without £430 (same company was best for both on meerkat so unless something buried in the small print, exactly the same cover) - cost of tracker for the year £215. And it they ever stole the car I'd probably prefer never to see it again.

At one point it was compulsory for certain cars, but it seems less so all the time. Ironic that as tracker technology improves, the push for them decreases.




ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Jon1967x said:
I must be missing the point and I apologise if its been asked and answered lots of times before but best quote for renewal with tracker is £410 - best quote without £430 (same company was best for both on meerkat so unless something buried in the small print, exactly the same cover) - cost of tracker for the year £215. And it they ever stole the car I'd probably prefer never to see it again.

At one point it was compulsory for certain cars, but it seems less so all the time. Ironic that as tracker technology improves, the push for them decreases.
You may not see a large discount but other people do, for example ..

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Depends on how at risk the insurers perceive the car is to theft.

kambites

71,563 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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I've certainly never been in a situation where it's worth-while, but I can imagine it is in some very high insurance risk situations.

Don't forget four figure insurance premiums are pretty much the norm for young drivers these days and for anything remotely interesting it can be well into four figures.

Jon1967x

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154 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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I hope I can be excused for not following the landy sub forum smile £3.5k to £600 sounds madness to me. The only time I saw this type of thing was a few years ago on a different car where companies wouldn't quote without one leaving an expensive option on the comparison sites for a company that were expensive with or without a tracker

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Jon1967x said:
I hope I can be excused for not following the landy sub forum smile £3.5k to £600 sounds madness to me. The only time I saw this type of thing was a few years ago on a different car where companies wouldn't quote without one leaving an expensive option on the comparison sites for a company that were expensive with or without a tracker
Of course smile
However there is a significant issue with prestige 4x4s being stolen at the moment (Land Rovers incl) so large premiums are being applied due to the loss ratio on them.

Jon1967x

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Thursday 20th November 2014
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kambites said:
I've certainly never been in a situation where it's worth-while, but I can imagine it is in some very high insurance risk situations.

Don't forget four figure insurance premiums are pretty much the norm for young drivers these days and for anything remotely interesting it can be well into four figures.
Thats the odd thing - tracker is for risk of being stolen - a young driver doesn't change that, just more likely to bend it round a lamp post where a tracker makes no difference.

And interesting cars? I'm quoting against a 1 year Aston Martin so not exactly boring. Not your typical ram raid car or car thats stolen for export to south africa which is probably the real risk they're required to protect against I guess.

rob.e

2,863 posts

308 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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I think the discounts are less because the robbers know how to find/disable/jam the trackers.

kambites

71,563 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Jon1967x said:
Thats the odd thing - tracker is for risk of being stolen - a young driver doesn't change that, just more likely to bend it round a lamp post where a tracker makes no difference.
Indeed, but nature of the statistical models the insurance companies use such that they are limited in what correlations they can draw. Statistical modelling isn't simple or cheap.

kambites

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251 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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rob.e said:
I think the discounts are less because the robbers know how to find/disable/jam the trackers.
I wonder what proportion of car thefts are planned professional operations and what proportion are opportunistic?

pidsy

8,704 posts

187 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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i spent the first few years of driving (16ish years ago) not being able to insure any of my cars without tracker.

but now it hasnt been mentioned on any quote for a few years. i had tracker horizon on 2 FTO's, a BMW and a metro!

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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rob.e said:
I think the discounts are less because the robbers know how to find/disable/jam the trackers.
This is the other problem, if a thief can steal a high value vehicle without keys do you think locating or jamming a tracker is beyond their ability?

pti

1,864 posts

174 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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When I had my 330 I was quoted more with the Tracker activated than without!


kambites

71,563 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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ZOLLAR said:
rob.e said:
I think the discounts are less because the robbers know how to find/disable/jam the trackers.
This is the other problem, if a thief can steal a high value vehicle without keys do you think locating or jamming a tracker is beyond their ability?
I was under the impression that the huge majority of high-value car thefts involved people steeling the keys first.

ZOLLAR

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203 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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kambites said:
ZOLLAR said:
rob.e said:
I think the discounts are less because the robbers know how to find/disable/jam the trackers.
This is the other problem, if a thief can steal a high value vehicle without keys do you think locating or jamming a tracker is beyond their ability?
I was under the impression that the huge majority of high-value car thefts involved people steeling the keys first.
Not with Land Rovers, X6 X5 etc

Only ones where I see theft with keys is Audis.

rgw2012

606 posts

173 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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And from personal experience - Mercedes!

nadger

1,413 posts

170 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Jon1967x said:
I must be missing the point and I apologise if its been asked and answered lots of times before but best quote for renewal with tracker is £410 - best quote without £430 (same company was best for both on meerkat so unless something buried in the small print, exactly the same cover) - cost of tracker for the year £215. And it they ever stole the car I'd probably prefer never to see it again.

At one point it was compulsory for certain cars, but it seems less so all the time. Ironic that as tracker technology improves, the push for them decreases.
I can top that saving!
We have just bought a 2nd hand 09 smax, which it turned out had a tracker fitted. I was quite pleased, as I thought it'd be a considerable saving! Whacked in the details with and without. Total saving for tracker active?
1 pound.
Don't think I'll bother tbh!

Abagnale

366 posts

144 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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If you can get tracking apps for mobile phones that cost pennies, why not cars?