Do you ever see other cars oversteering on the road?
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Round my way (Isle of Wight), there's not that many places that are suitable for it, there aren't that many roundabouts, and there's only maybe a handful of corners where it's really possible at all, let alone completely safe. As such, spotting a RWD car being dealt a 'dab of oppo', however small, is an extremely rare sight. The only one I can recall in the last year was a 996 slithering out of a junction sideways in the rain, and that's about it.
Do other people see this more often in other areas? On the rare occasions I travel to the mainland it always makes me smile when I come to these isolated roundabouts and see thick black circles laid around them as someone has obviously been having some fun there, but wonder if anyone ever actually sees it happen?
Do other people see this more often in other areas? On the rare occasions I travel to the mainland it always makes me smile when I come to these isolated roundabouts and see thick black circles laid around them as someone has obviously been having some fun there, but wonder if anyone ever actually sees it happen?
Only seen it once, ever. It was a 200sx and clearly set up for drifting. I flashed to let him out of the Shell garage and he exited in style - sideways and a snaking burnout for 50yds!
Does you make you wonder about the exaggeration that perhaps goes on. A guy at work told me he had manfully controlled overseer in his Audi A6 a few weeks ago. I smiled and nodded at the time, but i imagine getting an Audi - of all things - sideways is pretty much impossible, especially as it was a Quattro diesel!
Does you make you wonder about the exaggeration that perhaps goes on. A guy at work told me he had manfully controlled overseer in his Audi A6 a few weeks ago. I smiled and nodded at the time, but i imagine getting an Audi - of all things - sideways is pretty much impossible, especially as it was a Quattro diesel!
hondansx said:
Only seen it once, ever. It was a 200sx and clearly set up for drifting. I flashed to let him out of the Shell garage and he exited in style - sideways and a snaking burnout for 50yds!
Does you make you wonder about the exaggeration that perhaps goes on. A guy at work told me he had manfully controlled overseer in his Audi A6 a few weeks ago. I smiled and nodded at the time, but i imagine getting an Audi - of all things - sideways is pretty much impossible, especially as it was a Quattro diesel!
The only time I managed to get my old A6 sideways was when it was thick with snow in a large empty car park and the traction control button was held for ages to switch it off completely.Does you make you wonder about the exaggeration that perhaps goes on. A guy at work told me he had manfully controlled overseer in his Audi A6 a few weeks ago. I smiled and nodded at the time, but i imagine getting an Audi - of all things - sideways is pretty much impossible, especially as it was a Quattro diesel!
Only recall seeing it twice, both times by BMW 3 Series.
The first was an E30 trying to get the back out as he was behind me on a large roundabout. The car was a bit of an old snotter that he'd clearly bought for such shenanigans, however doing it so close to other cars was pretty stupid.
The second was an E46 nearly losing it on a set of double bends as it came towards me. He was going far too fast and I had to stamp on the brakes and squeeze over to the kerb to avoid getting clumped by the back end of the Beemer. Not the smartest way to drive in a 30mph residential area
The first was an E30 trying to get the back out as he was behind me on a large roundabout. The car was a bit of an old snotter that he'd clearly bought for such shenanigans, however doing it so close to other cars was pretty stupid.
The second was an E46 nearly losing it on a set of double bends as it came towards me. He was going far too fast and I had to stamp on the brakes and squeeze over to the kerb to avoid getting clumped by the back end of the Beemer. Not the smartest way to drive in a 30mph residential area
hondansx said:
Only seen it once, ever. It was a 200sx and clearly set up for drifting. I flashed to let him out of the Shell garage and he exited in style - sideways and a snaking burnout for 50yds!
Does you make you wonder about the exaggeration that perhaps goes on. A guy at work told me he had manfully controlled overseer in his Audi A6 a few weeks ago. I smiled and nodded at the time, but i imagine getting an Audi - of all things - sideways is pretty much impossible, especially as it was a Quattro diesel!
It is possible - understeer, understeer, understeer, panicked steering input gives way too much lock, snap oversteer as the front end bites, wobble, stability control system intervenes, car goes on its way.Does you make you wonder about the exaggeration that perhaps goes on. A guy at work told me he had manfully controlled overseer in his Audi A6 a few weeks ago. I smiled and nodded at the time, but i imagine getting an Audi - of all things - sideways is pretty much impossible, especially as it was a Quattro diesel!
The driver perceives all this as "catching oversteer" when actually it's just (1) a crap car and (2) electronics helping out.
Steve vRS said:
otolith said:
But if people are seeing you doing it, you are doing it wrong.
Don't get this... Do I need a parrot? Kozy said:
Why?
Because it really isn't the sort of thing you should be doing where there are other people around. Go and find somewhere quiet and out of the way, so that if you do f
k it up you won't take anybody else out with you and so that you don't get plod knocking on your door to discuss some dashcam footage they've been given.jamieduff1981 said:
Because the driver is not driving with appropriate care for other users and bystanders who probably haven't given their acceptance of the risks associated with Driftking getting it wrong.
We're not talking about the sort of driving that European knob was doing in his M5, drifting at speed through heavily congested city streets. Just the sort of slides one might be tempted to hold out of wide, well spaced junctions on out of town A roads or large semi deserted roundabouts, that sort of thing.otolith said:
Because it really isn't the sort of thing you should be doing where there are other people around. Go and find somewhere quiet and out of the way, so that if you do fk it up you won't take anybody else out with you and so that you don't get plod knocking on your door to discuss some dashcam footage they've been given.
How else do you expect me to demonstrate my manliness to complete strangers and women?k it up you won't take anybody else out with you and so that you don't get plod knocking on your door to discuss some dashcam footage they've been given.
Often enough, plenty of gravel roads in this part of the world. Only occasionally around town though.
One of the better ones involved two well-sighted (gravel) corners with a short straight in between. Me going one way in an MX5, bloke in a tidy 1st-gen Legacy RS turbo coming towards me. Cue both cars hanging it out around the corners, slow down to reduce dust (+ smile/wave) as we passed on the straight, then flick into the next corner.
I enjoy sharing the road with other competent drivers.
One of the better ones involved two well-sighted (gravel) corners with a short straight in between. Me going one way in an MX5, bloke in a tidy 1st-gen Legacy RS turbo coming towards me. Cue both cars hanging it out around the corners, slow down to reduce dust (+ smile/wave) as we passed on the straight, then flick into the next corner.
I enjoy sharing the road with other competent drivers.
A few times, each of them deliberate,
Couple of BMW Z4's doing quick U turns with nicely controlled oversteer, nothing over dramatic
and the worse was a 200sx doing a very deliberate smoky oversteer tyre smoke and lots of exhaust smoke on a up hill right hander approaching a junction at midday day on a sat.
Couple of BMW Z4's doing quick U turns with nicely controlled oversteer, nothing over dramatic
and the worse was a 200sx doing a very deliberate smoky oversteer tyre smoke and lots of exhaust smoke on a up hill right hander approaching a junction at midday day on a sat.
jamieduff1981 said:
Because the driver is not driving with appropriate care for other users and bystanders who probably haven't given their acceptance of the risks associated with Driftking getting it wrong.
Being able to see a car isn't necessarily the same as being in a position of risk if the driver of said car makes a mistake. A car 50m behind might see me indulge in frivolous oversteer, which doesn't pose any risk to them.I still generally avoid it around other traffic though because I don't want to cause a potentially incompetent driver to panic and do something stupid, or assume that because they can't control a car I can't either and report me to the men in funny blue hats.
Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 26th November 10:28
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