OK explain this one!?
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IceBoy

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2,455 posts

251 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Hi All,

I have been having condensation problems inside Mrs Ice's car for a while. I finally tracked it down to blocked drainage holes around the bottom of the windscreen which has not all been sorted!!! Big thanks to everyone.

Now I have a new problem....well not really a problem but this is a strange one.

Mrs Ice's car also gets lot and lots of condensation on the outside of the car as well, when others around it don't?!

So I just took a photo. Mrs Ice has the dark grey C-class and mine is the silver E-class estate.

I hope the picture is clear enough but my car has just the roof covered in a tiny amount of dew/condensation. My wifes car is absolutely dripping everywhere. Every square inch of her car is covered in HEAVY dew.

I just don't get it?!

IceBoy

johnnyBv8

2,482 posts

221 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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At a guess.... darker colour absorbs more warmth from the sun during the day than silver does. As the temp drops, moisture in the air condenses on it more than the cooler (ony temp-wise) silver. Hence more dew.

IceBoy

Original Poster:

2,455 posts

251 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Jeeezz Johnny, that is a great theory!

That never even occurred to me.

IceBoy

Mave

8,217 posts

245 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Why would it condense more on a warmer surface? I'd suspect a difference in cleanliness / waxing between the cars, dirtier car tending to initiate condensation more easily than clean.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Could just be position. I sometimes get one car misted or frozen and the other one clear.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

219 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Voodoo.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Yes, I do...

IceBoy

Original Poster:

2,455 posts

251 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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I'm not sure position has anything to it. They are both parked on my driveway but facing different directions.

It is really weird.

IceBoy

PS. The grey car is totally covered.....everywhere!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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IceBoy said:
I'm not sure position has anything to it. They are both parked on my driveway but facing different directions.
Yes, so are mine. Or on the drive and on the road.

Swordman

452 posts

194 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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You wouldn't get more condensation on a warmer surface, it would be the opposite. The thing is, as dark colours absorb more infrared radiation, they also emit more, so during the evening, the temperature would drop lower. Then the water vapour in the air would touch the surface, lose energy and condense to liquid water.

Momentofmadness

2,371 posts

271 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Mave said:
Why would it condense more on a warmer surface? I'd suspect a difference in cleanliness / waxing between the cars, dirtier car tending to initiate condensation more easily than clean.
+1

Jimmy No Hands

5,102 posts

186 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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That's the optional 'Self-cleaning' part of Mercedes Convenience Pack. Your pauper spec obviously doesn't have this feature. Happy to help.

shost

881 posts

173 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Swordman said:
You wouldn't get more condensation on a warmer surface, it would be the opposite. The thing is, as dark colours absorb more infrared radiation, they also emit more, so during the evening, the temperature would drop lower. Then the water vapour in the air would touch the surface, lose energy and condense to liquid water.
Yes you are referring to the Stephan Boltzman law, and I completely agree with your explanation.


Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

200 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Dew/Condensation/black body radiation/temperature deep space/how do car ports stop frost/what colour is the best emitter/blah blah/Google. Have fun.

Mave

8,217 posts

245 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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I really don't believe that radiation is the dominant heat transfer in this situation...

baccalad

220 posts

145 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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You bought the wrong car.

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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Black body radiation I expect.

While a black body certainly gets hotter when in direct sunlight, that wouldn't promote condensation.

Condensation occurs when moisture laden air comes into contact with a surface below the temp at which the moisture will condense.

Black bodies cool quicker than non-black bodies. I would suspect the black car gets cooler than the silver one.

Eighteeteewhy

7,259 posts

198 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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northwest monkey said:
Voodoo.
Who do, what you won't, they'll do people.

craig_m67

949 posts

218 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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Worst, my wifes dark, dirty and always dripping wet when I reverse park with her on a cold evening thread ever.


Edited by craig_m67 on Sunday 30th November 14:33

baccalad

220 posts

145 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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craig_m67 said:
Worst, my wifes dark and dirty causing her to be dripping wet when I reverse park with her on a cold evening thread ever.
Say what? Your wife? Dark and dirty? Dripping wet?