Can you identify this watch?
Can you identify this watch?
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AndrewEH1

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Sunday 30th November 2014
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A Sunday afternoon teaser for you all.

I have watch that belonged to my grandfather. I don't know where he got it from.

Apart from a Rolex I have no idea what it is, images are below. Any ideas? Worth restoring?






andy_s

19,857 posts

290 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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AndrewEH1 said:
A Sunday afternoon teaser for you all.

I have watch that belonged to my grandfather. I don't know where he got it from.

Apart from a Rolex I have no idea what it is, images are below. Any ideas? Worth restoring?





A very early (pre-1915ish) one, wire lugged Trench Watch, no name - the 'W & D' on the case back stands for Wilsdorf & Davis, the founder's [Rolex] watch import business. The scratched notes on the back are service dates - 1937 I think I see on one of them. The red print at 12 o'clock was a characteristic of this period for Rolex in both arabic and Roman numerals. Enamel dial is badly (from a collectors PoV) cracked and I think the lume plots have been a later addition and aren't original.

No idea on value, I'd guess at around 3-400 quid* tops and it'd take some doing to get that dial sorted out so maybe best to just leave it as it is and keep it as a keepsake perhaps.

(*The usual caveat applies - it may of course be the unicorn egg of Rolexs' and be worth gazillions. But I don't think so.)

ETA - the 't' indicates London 1914, silver of course. If your G'father was in the war then maybe a going away present or other, was he an officer by any chance?

Edited by andy_s on Sunday 30th November 18:23

AndrewEH1

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Sunday 30th November 2014
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andy_s said:
A very early (pre-1915ish) one, wire lugged Trench Watch, no name - the 'W & D' on the case back stands for Wilsdorf & Davis, the founder's [Rolex] watch import business. The scratched notes on the back are service dates - 1937 I think I see on one of them. The red print at 12 o'clock was a characteristic of this period for Rolex in both arabic and Roman numerals. Enamel dial is badly (from a collectors PoV) cracked and I think the lume plots have been a later addition and aren't original.

No idea on value, I'd guess at around 3-400 quid* tops and it'd take some doing to get that dial sorted out so maybe best to just leave it as it is and keep it as a keepsake perhaps.

(*The usual caveat applies - it may of course be the unicorn egg of Rolexs' and be worth gazillions. But I don't think so.)
Thanks for that info, I know next to nothing about watches.

The lume plots aren't original seeing as a few of them are off centre, unless it was finished on a Friday!

I do love the simplicity of the dial but as you say, probably just best to keep as is.

AndrewEH1

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Sunday 30th November 2014
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andy_s said:
ETA - the 't' indicates London 1914, silver of course. If your G'father was in the war then maybe a going away present or other, was he an officer by any chance?
My grandfather was a doctor in WWII out East for a period, as I said I'm not sure where he got it from. I'll have to ask my dad when I see him next.

AndrewEH1

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Sunday 30th November 2014
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erm...that value can't be right

http://www.ww1watch.com/shop/Rolex/product/1914-Ce...

Edited by AndrewEH1 on Sunday 30th November 18:34

andy_s

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Sunday 30th November 2014
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^ Ha - as I say....

Thing is that the one linked has the centre seconds - (you can see the additional wheel in the movement picture) which is probably where the rarity comes in, plus that one's in 'new' condition.

The best advice would be over somewhere like VRF (http://www.vintagerolexforum.com/) perhaps.

AndrewEH1

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Sunday 30th November 2014
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andy_s said:
^ Ha - as I say....

Thing is that the one linked has the centre seconds - (you can see the additional wheel in the movement picture) which is probably where the rarity comes in, plus that one's in 'new' condition.

The best advice would be over somewhere like VRF (http://www.vintagerolexforum.com/) perhaps.
Didn't spot the extra wheel! Is it okay to say that Rolex collectors are a little nutty?

I think I'll keep it as is, nice thing to look at. I'll do some digging to see if there is any story behind it.

andy_s

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Sunday 30th November 2014
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Certainly worth a bit more digging chap. thumbup

sparkyhx

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235 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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couple on ebay but most have seconds and better condition.

You never know the none seconds may be worth more!!!!!!

dig around for Rolex Red12 or trench watch