Hydratrak?
Hydratrak?
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Luckyone

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1,091 posts

261 months

Monday 3rd January 2005
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Got stuck on the drive again, only this time it was the wheel on the tarmac, not the grass, which was spinning. The cloud of smoke that engulfed the car should have been a clue!

I’m a bit confused about it, I thought it was a difference in the speed of the drive shafts that caused it to start working, but with the car not moving & one wheel spinning the other does nothing to get me up the slope. But when on the move flat out in second & third gear it leaves two very impressive black marks on the road so it must be doing its stuff then.
So does it only work at high speeds? Clever, if a little annoying…

SXS 

2,068 posts

269 months

Monday 3rd January 2005
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If you need a diff ( after you kill yours ) I've got one spare!

Luckyone

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1,091 posts

261 months

Monday 3rd January 2005
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thanks!

Got to change the upper diff mount soon anyway as it's knocking a bit.

Do you think it is broken though, or is it normal for a Hydratrak not to be able to get us up a slope?

dannylt

1,906 posts

313 months

Wednesday 5th January 2005
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Hmm, maybe it's died but they're supposed to be very reliable. A car without an LSD can still paint black lines up the road so that doesn't definitely mean it's working (see my Elise here. Drive back to back with another hydratrak car - maybe it hasn't been limiting slip properly for a while? Or maybe it only works when the other wheel is moving a bit.

Luckyone

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1,091 posts

261 months

Thursday 6th January 2005
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Good clip!

My friend has an Elise, he thinks it doesn't need LSD because it's so light & stiff. The old BM only ever spun one wheel (in a straight line) till it got LSD, so I'm not sure there.

That's an idea about the other wheel not moving. I'll try a burn-out start from stand still to see if the second wheel starts spinning later. Although with the diff mounting on the way out it could be a bit jerky

Anyone else want to try as well? All in the name of science...

Has anyone else ever tried to get round a hair pin junction from standstill by booting it, only to fail miserably? (lucky they have good brakes!)

joospeed

4,473 posts

307 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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dannylt said:
Hmm, maybe it's died but they're supposed to be very reliable. A car without an LSD can still paint black lines up the road so that doesn't definitely mean it's working (see my Elise here. Drive back to back with another hydratrak car - maybe it hasn't been limiting slip properly for a while? Or maybe it only works when the other wheel is moving a bit.




hooligan

dannylt

1,906 posts

313 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2005
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Oops- missed these replies! I think you get away without an LSD in the Elise because there's sufficient weight over the rears. Apparently a Caterham without LSD (and a fair bit of power) is very annoying - not enough weight over the rear.

danny

Luckyone

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261 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2005
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Oh, thanks for checking back!

That makes sense.

As for the Hydratrak, I asked the very nice bloke at Gatwick TVR parts dept - He said they won't lock solid till your doing over 70mph. Which explains everything...

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Thursday 24th February 2005
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Luckyone said:
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Has anyone else ever tried to get round a hair pin junction from standstill by booting it, only to fail miserably? (lucky they have good brakes!)


Afraid so, the embarrassment is then compounded by having to do a nine point turn, due to the crap lock.

My little Mgb gt, does them easy though & you can look through the floor at the same time (damn rot box)

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Thursday 24th February 2005
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RUSSELLM said:

Luckyone said:
Has anyone else ever tried to get round a hair pin junction from standstill by booting it, only to fail miserably? (lucky they have good brakes!)


Afraid so, the embarrassment is then compounded by having to do a nine point turn, due to the crap lock.

You should try it in a Tuscan, then, with a turning circle equivalent to that of a supertanker. Not the most impressive thing passers by will ever see.

Thankfully, that particular hairpin is on the way to a favourite watering hole of mine, so I've had plenty of practice. Can now take a "running start" at it at about 20mph then put on "full lock" (a relative term in the Tusc!) and boot it. Got within a 1/2" of the dry stone wall one time but practice makes perfect...

Luckyone

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1,091 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th February 2005
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J_S_G said:


You should try it in a Tuscan, then, with a turning circle equivalent to that of a supertanker. Not the most impressive thing passers by will ever see.

Thankfully, that particular hairpin is on the way to a favourite watering hole of mine, so I've had plenty of practice. Can now take a "running start" at it at about 20mph then put on "full lock" (a relative term in the Tusc!) and boot it. Got within a 1/2" of the dry stone wall one time but practice makes perfect...


Sounds like fun!

I think the Cerbs with 18" spiders are the same as Tuscans, if not a little worse due to the longer wheel base. Sound like you've got the hang of it though
It seems the hydrack locks progressively more the faster you are moving, but I don't think it's doing much at 20mph - so you're doing well there!