School boy error- tell me it's a quick fix?
School boy error- tell me it's a quick fix?
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Mc F

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417 posts

286 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Could do with some tunes back onboard as a 6hr round trip planned to a 1/4mile strip tomorrow with a friend who is running some American muscle.





Mc F

Original Poster:

417 posts

286 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Tried removing & refitting the 3 fuses D8,E6 & E8 & then doing the 148 Reset.

One fuse was blown, E6 I think but now replaced.

Alais, still no sound.

the problem started when the battery terminals where for a split second too long on the wrong way.silly

Likely to be fibre Optics?

NBTBRV8

2,064 posts

231 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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I quite often see 996 amps for sale on ebay, so maybe they are prone to failing. Google it to see what the symptoms are.

unclepezza

791 posts

166 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Mc F said:
Tried removing & refitting the 3 fuses D8,E6 & E8 & then doing the 148 Reset.

One fuse was blown, E6 I think but now replaced.

Alais, still no sound.

the problem started when the battery terminals where for a split second too long on the wrong way.silly

Likely to be fibre Optics?
Are you saying you connected the battery the wrong way round neg to pos? That can be a very costly mistake.

Could there be additional inline fuses, can you get a volt meter to the amp connection to see if you have power?

Richard Hamilton

525 posts

284 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Could be the internal fuse in the CD changer. Can you eject the CD cartridge? if not, I suspect that is the problem. All the units in the MOST loop need to be on before signals circulate.

fulgurex

85 posts

137 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Same thing happened to my 996.

Blew fuse on head unit but also destroyed power amp.

Found replacement amp for around £100. Simple fit.

No other problem.



Edited by fulgurex on Sunday 7th December 19:37

Mc F

Original Poster:

417 posts

286 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Richard Hamilton said:
Could be the internal fuse in the CD changer. Can you eject the CD cartridge? if not, I suspect that is the problem. All the units in the MOST loop need to be on before signals circulate.
yes i can ( lucky - I have just retrieved my Brad Paisley CD laugh)

Mc F

Original Poster:

417 posts

286 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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fulgurex said:
Same thing happened to my 996.

Blew fuse on head unit but also destroyed power amp.

Found replacement amp for around £100. Simple fit.

No other problem.



Edited by fulgurex on Sunday 7th December 19:37
In light of my CD changer having power & ejecting the CD ok, is it likely to be a replacement amp required.

If so appreciate a link to a company that will post to Oz..

Can I test the amp?
How ?

NBTBRV8

2,064 posts

231 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Mc F said:
In light of my CD changer having power & ejecting the CD ok, is it likely to be a replacement amp required.

If so appreciate a link to a company that will post to Oz..

Can I test the amp?
How ?
First of all look up the part number, then try ebay. If you want to go new deal with www.sonnenporscheoemparts.com, I use them a lot and am based in Aus too.

rjn21

295 posts

187 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Reverse polarity connection will pop a fuse on the fuse board, but will also pop the fuse on the back of the PCM unit. Before drastic surgery, check that fuse as well (if you haven't already), you will need to pull the PCM out fully.

It's a 10A fuse on the back of the pcm. From memory it's on the lower right side of the rear aluminium plate of the back of the PCM, if looking straight on at the back face.

D9 will have popped, D8 and E6 should be double checked, although sounds like you have checked all that.

Edited by rjn21 on Monday 8th December 15:17

fulgurex

85 posts

137 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Mc F said:
In light of my CD changer having power & ejecting the CD ok, is it likely to be a replacement amp required.

If so appreciate a link to a company that will post to Oz..

Can I test the amp?
How ?
The only test I did was to put my nose near the amp and you could smell straightaway that something had blown.

Check the model number of the power amp and let me know. I paid around £115 for the one I bought for my 2003 996. If it's the same model I can do you a good deal on it because I've just taken it out and replaced all the stereo with a new component stereo system. The number on my amp is 996.645.331.03


Mc F

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417 posts

286 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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fulgurex said:
The only test I did was to put my nose near the amp and you could smell straightaway that something had blown.
I will get sniffing and report back.
Mine is an 05 turbo S, wonder were the amps the same throughout the 911 range.
Maybe PCM 2 's used the same components for all years / models.

If that fails I will have to go looking for the 10 a fuse. Not looking forward to that.

rjn21

295 posts

187 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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It's quite easy to remove:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic/5025-remove-p...

You can see the fuse in red on this pic, which is s PCM 2.1, but near enough;
http://images.sc1.netdna-cdn.com/D/-detailed-image...

Richard Hamilton

525 posts

284 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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I can't see it being the fuse on the back of the PCM, because the display is coming on.

fulgurex

85 posts

137 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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As I said earlier, Im pretty sure you have blown the amp. The amp is not protected against reverse polarity and it will blow the psu. In the 996, opening the bonnet and putting your nose anywhere near the amp location should pick up that smell of electrical component meltdown. Not sure about locations in other 911 models. The amp number 996.645.331.03 fitted straight into my 996 although the original was a 996.645.331.02. Supplier told me the last two digits were a year/version number so were broadly interchangeable. Symptons were the same with power and display to head unit but no sound.

Should be easy to locate a used one locally otherwise let me know.

rjn21

295 posts

187 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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If component replacement is required, this will provide the part no.s.
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts...
See page 454.

All European 996 Ts and North America ones came with bose as standard assume same in aus? It so the amp part no is 996 645 333 07. There are various firmware versions of the bose amp so be careful but as you are a last year vehicle the latest model should be ok.

fulgurex

85 posts

137 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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its really easy to get to the amp and check the part number.

Mc F

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417 posts

286 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Just an update.
In the 05 model it is located down the side of the spare wheel on a bracket.
Anyway removed now and details attached.
No smell of note.
Might be worth getting an audio place to test it out before replacing?

fulgurex

85 posts

137 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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I'd certainly get it checked out. With display still working and fuses checked, I'd bet on an amp fault.

With my none Bose 996, the amp didn't seem to have any reverse polarity protection.

fulgurex

85 posts

137 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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I'd certainly get it checked out. With display still working and fuses checked, I'd bet on an amp fault.

With my none Bose 996, the amp didn't seem to have any reverse polarity protection.