upgrade Advice required.
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SharkFodder

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18 posts

136 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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So im am keen to get the basic upgrades out of the way so i am free to enjoy her (my Cerb', not the girlfriend) during the limited time i spend in the UK. any advice or recommendations?

I am booked in for a headlight and quad tailamp conversion at Centraltvr.

I was thinking performance wise, ACT short induction kit, performance headers, decat, and complete large bore sports exhaust system, with a full remap, and 12k service to accomoany.
I guess this means Austec Racing? Who is this Jools individual i have read so much about? Does he still work and if so, then where?
Is there one performance tuner that stands out heads and tails above the rest?

Any other little bits i am missing?
I read a post advising about an oil stat upgrade? The cooling chip mod? And upgraded fuel lines?

Jhonno

6,430 posts

164 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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For short induction and remaps I would speak to Jools.. He could also do the rest for you as well I believe, so a one stop shop.

SharkFodder

Original Poster:

18 posts

136 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Perhaps i am being totally ignorant or retarded, but who is this Jools?
Any website or contact details? Whereabouts is he located?

I have tried googling Joolspeed, after seeing this name mentioned, but no joy...

Gazzab

21,554 posts

305 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Joolz is the pioneer of short induction and cerb remaps.
Before trying to make your cerb look newer than it is (and reducing its long term value)...what suspension and brakes do you have? How's interior condition? That's where my money would go.

SharkFodder

Original Poster:

18 posts

136 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Suspension wise i have just had Nitrons fitted, and the wishbones and linkages are all fairly good. I will replace with Polybushes at some point in the future, when i have the time to fully refurbish myself.
Brakes have new pads all round, and the discs have all just been skimmed. Ap Racing calipers, with big discs up front. Not sure if these were standard for an early 4.5 or not?

Having read countless posts praising Joolz and his work, i am fully appreciative that he certainly seems to be the person to have perform the work, however, still, i am no less in the dark as to how or where he can be contacted? Company name, or website please?

aide

2,277 posts

187 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Gazzab said:
Joolz is the pioneer of short induction and cerb remaps.
Before trying to make your cerb look newer than it is (and reducing its long term value)...what suspension and brakes do you have? How's interior condition? That's where my money would go.
+1 I'd start from the inside out.

Gazzab

21,554 posts

305 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Joolz bases his business near me. He's in chesvegas. Kitsandclassics.
When you say larger from discs...do you mean 330 mm? The 4.5s came slightly smaller than that. The cerb ap discs could be a pita with shudders etc. The later tuscan drilled ones can crack. I have ap 330s and they are excellent.

SharkFodder

Original Poster:

18 posts

136 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Im quite happy to spend the money where it is needed, however i also want to be able to use my car, and not have it permanently in the garage.

I am not sure entirely what more the interior could benefit from... I feel it is in excellent condition, other than worn footmats, and some wear on the drivers bolster. The footmats are on order, and i am not prepared to have an entire retrim for the sake of a small patch. Perhaps i will get some ACT carbon bolster covers, and cover them to match. The interior is black leather throughout, so my only thoughts were perhaps a new carpet set in grey? Body is Viper blue, so not sure what colours would work inside.

The front has bad gravel rash, and needs a respray. Hence the headlight conversion which includes a front end respray. Based on the prices on the central tvr website, when you offset the individual cost of a front end respray, it leaves the headlight conversion costing only 250 quid i believe... Certainly worth it for the increase in lighting, and in my opinion, styling.



robsco

7,875 posts

199 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Here is the website for Joolz:

http://www.kitsandclassics.co.uk/


SharkFodder

Original Poster:

18 posts

136 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Thankyou very much!

Supateg

797 posts

165 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Jools is also an ACT agent last time I was there.....

GT6k

942 posts

185 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Mine has the four headlight upgrade and although it is OK it is not fabulous. As with a lot of these things the upgrade only looks better because it is new.

Gazzab

21,554 posts

305 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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If the logic is so you can see better then I think you will be disappointed. New reflectors on the old style lights are as good as the new shape lights.
If you go led / HID on either you will see even better (but unfortunately blind other drivers / risk legality issues).

SharkFodder

Original Poster:

18 posts

136 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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The headlight conversion is provided with HID lights, so im sure there will be a noticeable improvement over the standard setup? Given i need the front resprayed anyway, and that i personally prefer the smoother, sleeker look of the twin headlights, i dont feel it is an irrational choice.

Gazzab, you mention it would reduce long term value of the vehicle? Is this just because of the obvious deviation from the original appearance?
My impression of the Cerbera, and TVRs in general, was that there is great inconsistency across 'factory standard' models anyway? Whilst i realise headlight design was consistent with year of production, i personally have no moral qualms about mixing and matching different aspects from the car's evolution on an older model. I am not trying to disguise it as a newer car, as i said before i just prefer the aesthetics.



Gazzab

21,554 posts

305 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Your call. Look at older 911s with 80s kit stuck on a 70s car. Really hurt the values as the cars moved into classic stage. But its your car and like many owners the urge to personalise is hard to resist.
As for they come with HIDs; the reflectors in the new lights wont be made for HIDs and so the beam pattern will probably pass MOTs but will not be great for other road users. So get ready to be flashed. And dont forget that if you cause an accident then your lights legality maybe an issue.
I removed the HIDs from my later cerbs projector headlights as I was getting flashed and realised that whilst I could see better, other road users couldnt. Hey but maybe mine werent accurately enough aligned.

SharkFodder

Original Poster:

18 posts

136 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Thankyou for the advice. Lots of points i never even considered.... I had just imagined that being performed by a reputable company such as CentralTVR, the headlight upgrade would be road legal, and all matched components, tried and tested. Obviously a rethink may be due....

Gazzab

21,554 posts

305 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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I could be wrong but am pretty certain the hella units are made for halogen bulbs. There will I'm sure be other views and other experiences out there. I decided against HID. I have been following the led upgrade on the chimp section and again for me the same issues and concerns apply.

Gazzab

21,554 posts

305 months

robsco

7,875 posts

199 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Originality is king as far as future values go. If I were you, I'd consider getting the reflectors rechromed in the original lamp and speak to some specialists about rewiring the lights directly from the battery. I understand (well, I don't understand, but I have heard) that the current to the headlights is reduced as the wiring runs all the way from the front of the car to the light control box in the boot and then back again.

GT6k

942 posts

185 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Any upgrade that uses CE marked complete light units (not lamps) will be legal, this includes LEDs.

Aftermarket HIDs are legal there is a guide here
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606...

If you fit lapmps which are too bright then they are illegal this is the case whether they are halogens, LEDs or HIDs. There is somewhere a regulation which defines the brightness in lumens of the headlights but I cant find it. This is why you cant use a 100w halogen bulbs.