To keep or not to keep - that is the question

[FloSpeed]

Vehicle


Film


1st -Original MSRP


Now -Average Retail


1962 Sunbeam Alpine II Dr. No $2,595 $19,700
1963 Aston Martin DB5 Goldfinger, Thunderball N/A $318,600
1967 Toyota 2000 GT (LHD) You Only Live Twice N/A $960,000
1968 Aston Martin DBS On Her Majesty's Secret Service $16,850 $65,400
1974 American Motors Hornet The Man with the Golden Gun $2,849 $2,125
1976 Lotus Esprit The Spy Who Loved Me $15,990 $8,550
1985 Aston Martin V-8 The Living Daylights $96,000 $73,100
2002 Aston Martin V12 Vanquish Die Another Day $228,000 $75,500

[ds2000]

Where are the crappy BM's

[Jon1967x]

A good Vanquish S from 10 years ago will be $100k - $200k if its like UK prices

This ones £150k!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

Edited by Jon1967x on Monday 8th December 15:21

[DB4DM]

Average retail for a DB5 likely to be at least your figure but in sterling not USD. New in 1963 they'd have been around $7000 I'd propose

[Guycord]

DB4DM said:

Average retail for a DB5 likely to be at least your figure but in sterling not USD. New in 1963 they'd have been around $7000 I'd propose

Reasonably well sorted ones - but not concours, I would put at 300k more than indicated.

Or to put it another way, show me one for $318k, and I'll probably buy it in a heart beat, then spend at least $318k getting it sorted.

Not many decent DB5's now under half a Mill GBP

[Jon39]

DB4DM said:

(DB5) New in 1963 they'd have been around $7000 I'd propose.

Yes £4,000 in 1963, which was then twice the price of a Jaguar E-Type.

I suppose the answer to the following questions, might be upsetting to those of us who dream with hindsight.

Which year was the low price point for a used DB5, and what would have a non-restored, well looked after example cost then?

The prospect of buying one near the low-point might sound good, but I think I would be too frightened now, to even drive it out of my garage.

[avinalarf]

As an aside I paid £3250 for my 1968,DB6 Mk2 in 1970 from H.R.Owen.

[DB4DM]

In 1974 just after the oil crunch I looked a a rotbox DB5 for £900 and i suppose a good one would have been double that. Prices had rallied a bit by 1979 when I bought the DB4 only to face a big bill in 1982 that was more than I paid for the car!

So i suspect 1973 to 1974 was the DB5 low point, 10 years old, likely very rotten if treated normally and driven regardless of weather. I know my car was driven into a ditch in snow about this period

[Jon1967x]

Anybody actually know what the question was?

Smart money for me is Gaydon Manual DBS (or manual V12 Vantage) although only the DBS stands a chance of ever being worth significant dosh.. plus its a Bond car

[DB4DM]

Wasn't the question to keep or not to keep? I suspect there will be very significant challenges keeping a Gaydon car going in the very long term especially as the electronic bits become obsolescent. No doubt AML will see an opportunity once say a current DBS becomes a heritage model, at a price though

[Jon39]

avinalarf said:

As an aside I paid £3250 for my 1968,DB6 Mk2 in 1970 from H.R.Owen.

Being serious this time, Sir.

Old money never sounds very much to us now, of course.
In todays currency, you paid just over £40,000.

I expect the cost to you though, would have been a satisfying percentage below the new cost.

Have you ever seen your DB6 in more recent times?

[Jon1967x]

DB4DM said:

Wasn't the question to keep or not to keep? I suspect there will be very significant challenges keeping a Gaydon car going in the very long term especially as the electronic bits become obsolescent. No doubt AML will see an opportunity once say a current DBS becomes a heritage model, at a price though

Ah.. I thought he had a particular car and was wondering whether to keep based on values of other cars.

Any car worth more today than it was new has got to be a keeper I'd have thought, accepting that the cost of keeping could outweigh changes in value. I know what you say about Gaydon cars, but there are enough of them that there will be a whole cottage industry of people making spares for them. I remember seeing on Wheeler Dealers a man in his garage refurbishing a Maserati throttle body (IIRC) - a real black art - but those people will always exist.

[avinalarf]

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Jon39 said:

avinalarf said:

As an aside I paid £3250 for my 1968,DB6 Mk2 in 1970 from H.R.Owen.

Being serious this time, Sir.

Old money never sounds very much to us now, of course.
In todays currency, you paid just over £40,000.

I expect the cost to you though, would have been a satisfying percentage below the new cost.

Have you ever seen your DB6 in more recent times?

It was quite by chance I bought it .
A friend saw it in Owen's and told me about it.
I had just put down a deposit on a new Pontiac Firebird that was being imported from the States,that salesman was not pleased when I cancelled.
I have a great fondness for that car,it was in Caribbean( light metallic) blue with a cherry red interior and webasto sun roof.
I of course regret selling it ,but who knew then ?
Funny thing was that sitting next to the DB6 in the showroom was a DB5 in silver birch.
I had a hard time choosing between the two and there wasn't much price difference.
I finally chose the DB6 as it was the latest model and my fiancé preferred the colour.
After I got married I sold it and got a "family" car and a red Corvette for weekends.
Don't know what happened to my Aston but that car,my first Aston, gave me a regard for the marque that I still have today.

Edited by avinalarf on Monday 8th December 18:34

[DB4DM]

People with the black arts, for example who could rebuild by hand a current Gaydon engine which may have significant machine content to build new, "will always exist", I'm not convinced the trade would agree with you. It's not just the cars that will become obsolescent but the test and diagnostic equipment too

on driving these old heritage cars, I'll be very interested to compare notes with Guycord about his new Daisy and my old rotbox

[Neil1300r]

avinalarf said:

It was quite by chance I bought it .
A friend saw it in Owen's and told me about it.
I had just put down a deposit on a new Pontiac Firebird that was being imported from the States,that salesman was not pleased when I cancelled.
I have a great fondness for that car,it was in Caribbean( light metallic) blue with a cherry red interior and webasto sun roof.
I of course regret selling it ,but who knew then ?
Funny thing was that sitting next to the DB6 in the showroom was a DB5 in silver birch.
I had a hard time choosing between the two and there wasn't much price difference.
I finally chose the DB6 as it was the latest model and my fiancé preferred the colour.
After I got married I sold it and got a "family" car and a red Corvette for weekends.
Don't know what happened to my Aston but that car,my first Aston, gave me a regard for the marque that I still have today.

Edited by avinalarf on Monday 8th December 18:34

[AMDBSNick]

Jon1967x said:

Anybody actually know what the question was?

Smart money for me is Gaydon Manual DBS (or manual V12 Vantage) although only the DBS stands a chance of ever being worth significant dosh.. plus its a Bond car

My plan is for the kids to get mine. Eldest currently six. I hope you're right

[bentley01]

AMDBSNick said:

My plan is for the kids to get mine. Eldest currently six. I hope you're right

My eldest is six and he has already informed me that one day the Aston will be his.

[AMDBSNick]

bentley01 said:

My eldest is six and he has already informed me that one day the Aston will be his.

[bentley01]

I think when I was six I wanted my fathers Morris Marina 1.8 twin carb. That was until he took one of the carbs off to save fuel!!

[Bincenzo]

AMDBSNick said:

bentley01 said:

My eldest is six and he has already informed me that one day the Aston will be his.

My eldest is 20 and he can fk off if he thinks he's getting mine!!