'Nut rage' delayed Korean Air plane
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30375004
BBC said:
A Korean Air executive is under investigation over claims she delayed a plane over the way she was served nuts.
Heather Cho demanded the removal of a crew member from a flight last Friday for failing to serve nuts on a plate.
Ms Cho, a vice-president of the firm, forced the Incheon-bound flight to taxi back to the terminal in New York.
The airline said checking service standards was part of her job, and she had the pilot's backing. But officials said she was a passenger at the time.
Local media reports said that a junior attendant had offered Ms Cho macadamia nuts in a bag, instead of serving the nuts on a plate.
Ms Cho, daughter of company boss Cho Yang-ho, then questioned the chief flight attendant over in-flight service standards and ordered him off the plane.
Korean Air said the plane arrived 11 minutes late, and that the decision to expel the senior flight attendant had been made in consultation with the pilot.
The airline told Korea Times that checking of quality of service was one of Ms Cho's jobs, as she is in charge of in-flight service for the carrier.
The transport authorities are investigating whether Ms Cho's actions infringed aviation law.
"Even though she is senior vice president at the company, she was a passenger at that time, so she had to behave and be treated as a passenger," a South Korea transport ministry official told reporters.
Nuts.Heather Cho demanded the removal of a crew member from a flight last Friday for failing to serve nuts on a plate.
Ms Cho, a vice-president of the firm, forced the Incheon-bound flight to taxi back to the terminal in New York.
The airline said checking service standards was part of her job, and she had the pilot's backing. But officials said she was a passenger at the time.
Local media reports said that a junior attendant had offered Ms Cho macadamia nuts in a bag, instead of serving the nuts on a plate.
Ms Cho, daughter of company boss Cho Yang-ho, then questioned the chief flight attendant over in-flight service standards and ordered him off the plane.
Korean Air said the plane arrived 11 minutes late, and that the decision to expel the senior flight attendant had been made in consultation with the pilot.
The airline told Korea Times that checking of quality of service was one of Ms Cho's jobs, as she is in charge of in-flight service for the carrier.
The transport authorities are investigating whether Ms Cho's actions infringed aviation law.
"Even though she is senior vice president at the company, she was a passenger at that time, so she had to behave and be treated as a passenger," a South Korea transport ministry official told reporters.
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.
33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.
33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
This.33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
As for the person in question - she'll not be the first 'born into silly money and now thinks she is God' idiot to cause trouble for many others. It is so much fun when you see these types read their name, rank and number - I do hope Daddy puts her in charge of sanitation.
hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.
33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
Because the risk is almost too small to quantify?33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
Pothole said:
hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.
33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
Because the risk is almost too small to quantify?33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2724684/Nu...
In this case people had been asked not to eat nuts but one of the passengers didn't understand the requests.
Simpo Two said:
'Ms Cho, a vice-president of the firm, forced the Incheon-bound flight to taxi back to the terminal in New York.'
I thought the Captain was top dog on board an aeroplane. Should have given her a good spanking!
That's Koreans for you mate I thought the Captain was top dog on board an aeroplane. Should have given her a good spanking!

Hierarchy rules....
3 captains on a 777 ploughed into the runway in USofA because the underling FO was too scared to speak up.....
So when the boss' daughter complains about nuts, the captain has to obey

And they say it doesn't exist
hman said:
My son is the same - as are many many children and the numbers are going up (source: wife is an allergy specialist in the NHS she see's 10 - 15 % more children every year).
I doubt nuts are going to be served for much longer!
What exactly is causing these silly allergies, just seems ridiculous that things like this is getting worse?I doubt nuts are going to be served for much longer!
Regiment said:
What exactly is causing these silly allergies, just seems ridiculous that things like this is getting worse?
NHS Mouthpiece said:
smoking
No further research needed then.Anyway is wasn't the fact that nuts were served that caused the b
h to kick off, it was the fact they weren't served on a plate.hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.
33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
At 33,000 miles up, I would have thought peanuts out of the bag would be the least of your worries33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...

Notadoctor said:
Reminded of a first class Korean Air flight to Seoul, few hours after takeoff a little voice chirrups, "You're looking very handsome, Mr Notadoctor".
I look around, passenger next to me asleep, can't work out who said it.
Carried on with crossword but then, "My, oh my, you're such a clever man, Mr Notadoctor".
Worried about my sanity, I called the steward and asked him what's going on.
He laughs and explains, "Not to worry, Sir, it's just the complimentary peanuts".
Can I just stop you there, before you tell us that on the same flight the Entertainment System refused to show any films but just repeatedly told you to sod off....because we *know* it was completely out of order already.I look around, passenger next to me asleep, can't work out who said it.
Carried on with crossword but then, "My, oh my, you're such a clever man, Mr Notadoctor".
Worried about my sanity, I called the steward and asked him what's going on.
He laughs and explains, "Not to worry, Sir, it's just the complimentary peanuts".
wolfracesonic said:
hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.
33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
At 33,000 miles up, I would have thought peanuts out of the bag would be the least of your worries33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...

hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.
33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
Seriously?33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.
Why would they even consider running this risk...
First world problems and all that, you don't get many lactose intolerant Rwandans.
assuming you have done your research and actually know that as a fact..(?)
from NHS website :-
"Who is affected
Rates of lactose intolerance can differ significantly between different ethnic groups. For example, it is thought that only one in 50 people of northern European descent have some degree of lactose intolerance, whereas most people of Chinese descent have the condition.
This may be because people from places where there has historically been no ready access to milk, such as Africa or east Asia, may not have evolved the ability to digest lactose as there was no significant benefit in being able to do so.
In the UK, lactose intolerance is more common in people of Asian or African-Caribbean descent.
Lactose intolerance can develop at any age.
Many cases first develop in people aged 20 to 40, although babies and young children can also be affected"
from NHS website :-
"Who is affected
Rates of lactose intolerance can differ significantly between different ethnic groups. For example, it is thought that only one in 50 people of northern European descent have some degree of lactose intolerance, whereas most people of Chinese descent have the condition.
This may be because people from places where there has historically been no ready access to milk, such as Africa or east Asia, may not have evolved the ability to digest lactose as there was no significant benefit in being able to do so.
In the UK, lactose intolerance is more common in people of Asian or African-Caribbean descent.
Lactose intolerance can develop at any age.
Many cases first develop in people aged 20 to 40, although babies and young children can also be affected"
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