'Nut rage' delayed Korean Air plane
'Nut rage' delayed Korean Air plane
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rohrl

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8,984 posts

174 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30375004

BBC said:
A Korean Air executive is under investigation over claims she delayed a plane over the way she was served nuts.

Heather Cho demanded the removal of a crew member from a flight last Friday for failing to serve nuts on a plate.

Ms Cho, a vice-president of the firm, forced the Incheon-bound flight to taxi back to the terminal in New York.

The airline said checking service standards was part of her job, and she had the pilot's backing. But officials said she was a passenger at the time.

Local media reports said that a junior attendant had offered Ms Cho macadamia nuts in a bag, instead of serving the nuts on a plate.

Ms Cho, daughter of company boss Cho Yang-ho, then questioned the chief flight attendant over in-flight service standards and ordered him off the plane.

Korean Air said the plane arrived 11 minutes late, and that the decision to expel the senior flight attendant had been made in consultation with the pilot.

The airline told Korea Times that checking of quality of service was one of Ms Cho's jobs, as she is in charge of in-flight service for the carrier.

The transport authorities are investigating whether Ms Cho's actions infringed aviation law.

"Even though she is senior vice president at the company, she was a passenger at that time, so she had to behave and be treated as a passenger," a South Korea transport ministry official told reporters.
Nuts.

Gargamel

16,342 posts

290 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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I am surprised she wasn't a salted with that attitude

SpeckledJim

33,895 posts

282 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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BBC said:
Ms Cho, daughter of company boss Cho Yang-ho
This might be the nub of the issue.

Leithen

13,971 posts

296 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Her father will be giving her a roasting.

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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'Ms Cho, a vice-president of the firm, forced the Incheon-bound flight to taxi back to the terminal in New York.'

I thought the Captain was top dog on board an aeroplane. Should have given her a good spanking!

hman

7,497 posts

223 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.

33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.

Why would they even consider running this risk...


Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.

33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.

Why would they even consider running this risk...
This.

As for the person in question - she'll not be the first 'born into silly money and now thinks she is God' idiot to cause trouble for many others. It is so much fun when you see these types read their name, rank and number - I do hope Daddy puts her in charge of sanitation.

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.

33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.

Why would they even consider running this risk...
Because the risk is almost too small to quantify?

maffski

1,905 posts

188 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Pothole said:
hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.

33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.

Why would they even consider running this risk...
Because the risk is almost too small to quantify?
I was sure I'd heard of it happening (except for the divert)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2724684/Nu...

In this case people had been asked not to eat nuts but one of the passengers didn't understand the requests.


hman

7,497 posts

223 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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My son is the same - as are many many children and the numbers are going up (source: wife is an allergy specialist in the NHS she see's 10 - 15 % more children every year).

I doubt nuts are going to be served for much longer!

r1flyguy1

1,571 posts

205 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Simpo Two said:
'Ms Cho, a vice-president of the firm, forced the Incheon-bound flight to taxi back to the terminal in New York.'

I thought the Captain was top dog on board an aeroplane. Should have given her a good spanking!
That's Koreans for you mate wink

Hierarchy rules....

3 captains on a 777 ploughed into the runway in USofA because the underling FO was too scared to speak up.....

So when the boss' daughter complains about nuts, the captain has to obey wink


And they say it doesn't exist

Regiment

2,799 posts

188 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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hman said:
My son is the same - as are many many children and the numbers are going up (source: wife is an allergy specialist in the NHS she see's 10 - 15 % more children every year).

I doubt nuts are going to be served for much longer!
What exactly is causing these silly allergies, just seems ridiculous that things like this is getting worse?

TimJMS

2,584 posts

280 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Regiment said:
What exactly is causing these silly allergies, just seems ridiculous that things like this is getting worse?
NHS Mouthpiece said:
smoking
No further research needed then.

Anyway is wasn't the fact that nuts were served that caused the bh to kick off, it was the fact they weren't served on a plate.


wolfracesonic

9,177 posts

156 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.

33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.

Why would they even consider running this risk...
At 33,000 miles up, I would have thought peanuts out of the bag would be the least of your worrieslaugh

hidetheelephants

35,704 posts

222 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Nepotism; keeps it in the family.

eharding

14,648 posts

313 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Notadoctor said:
Reminded of a first class Korean Air flight to Seoul, few hours after takeoff a little voice chirrups, "You're looking very handsome, Mr Notadoctor".

I look around, passenger next to me asleep, can't work out who said it.

Carried on with crossword but then, "My, oh my, you're such a clever man, Mr Notadoctor".

Worried about my sanity, I called the steward and asked him what's going on.

He laughs and explains, "Not to worry, Sir, it's just the complimentary peanuts".
Can I just stop you there, before you tell us that on the same flight the Entertainment System refused to show any films but just repeatedly told you to sod off....because we *know* it was completely out of order already.

hman

7,497 posts

223 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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wolfracesonic said:
hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.

33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.

Why would they even consider running this risk...
At 33,000 miles up, I would have thought peanuts out of the bag would be the least of your worrieslaugh
true - i meant feet. bugger.

Kenty

5,286 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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She has resigned now!

Hackney

7,423 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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hman said:
Given the amount of people with anaphylactic reactions to nuts, both by direct contact and inhaled/airborne particles landing on skin I am amazed that nuts are still served on planes.

33,000 miles up 500 miles across an ocean someone opens a bag of nuts and the nut allergic passenger goes into anaphylaxis, chaos ensues, adrenaline pens are stabbed in the poor passengers leg, immediate disaster lessened and now the pilot has to divert to a near by airport.

Why would they even consider running this risk...
Seriously?
First world problems and all that, you don't get many lactose intolerant Rwandans.

hman

7,497 posts

223 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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assuming you have done your research and actually know that as a fact..(?)

from NHS website :-

"Who is affected

Rates of lactose intolerance can differ significantly between different ethnic groups. For example, it is thought that only one in 50 people of northern European descent have some degree of lactose intolerance, whereas most people of Chinese descent have the condition.
This may be because people from places where there has historically been no ready access to milk, such as Africa or east Asia, may not have evolved the ability to digest lactose as there was no significant benefit in being able to do so.

In the UK, lactose intolerance is more common in people of Asian or African-Caribbean descent.

Lactose intolerance can develop at any age.

Many cases first develop in people aged 20 to 40, although babies and young children can also be affected"