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bernhund

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3,798 posts

223 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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A week or so back I took delivery of a new Transit Custom and all has been well. It's very nice to drive and has all modcons. I can honestly say I have thoroughly enjoyed it until today, when I put 5 8'x 4' sheets of ply in the back. THEY DON'T FIT, they protrude best part of 100mm beyond the door seal. Shifting the whole lot diagonally was all I could do, but ordinarily the floor space would be covered in toolboxes etc. My last Transit and all other vans I've owned took the boards stood on their side straight along one side of the back. This is a quote from their website:

Outstanding load space and access
The Transit Custom’s loadspace is impressive in all three dimensions: load length, width (from wheel arch to wheel arch) and usable interior height. As a result, it can easily carry standard 8’ x 4’ boards placed on their side or flat on the floor, three euro pallets and, thanks to its unique load-through storage area, items up to 3m long. Overall, the van provides a cavernous six cubic metres of loadspace with a bulkhead fitted – and that’s just the short wheelbase (L1) version.

Ambiguous? They didn't say 'how' the boards fitted in. For all I know they were turned into sawdust first and bagged up!
So what would you do? I have emailed the guy who sold it to me and said I might return the vehicle. Can I do that?

The Wookie

14,209 posts

258 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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I may be being daft here but it says 'flat on the floor or on it's side' for fitting 8x4 sheet in, so if it doesn't fit then it's false advertising.

It seems a pretty major error or risk for a company like Ford... before you go in all guns blazing are you absolutely sure you've done it right OP? I.e. Is it actually 8x4 you've got or have you accidentally ended up with something bigger? Also hasn't it got some sort of loading system that goes under the seats to extend the load bay?

bernhund

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3,798 posts

223 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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It's a good point, these boards come in metric sizes, 2440 x 1220mm. But that converts to 1/16in more than 8ft'. As they are only 9mm thick I've managed to bend them a bit, but they're nowhere near to being flat and upright to fit in. I'd be interested to hear from any others who might run a late Transit.
Seriously, in my book the Transit is THE benchmark for vans and I can't believe Ford have produced one that doesn't hold a standard sheet material size.

SluffMcDuff

43 posts

154 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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This is probably a stupid question, but have you measured the boards to make sure of the size?

bernhund

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3,798 posts

223 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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SluffMcDuff said:
This is probably a stupid question, but have you measured the boards to make sure of the size?
Yep, definitely 8x4 (2.4x1.2m) boards. I've been out to look 3 times tonight in case I'm being stupid! They simply are too long for the new Transit.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Did you not measure the van before you bought it to make sure, rather than rely on sales blurb?

colonel c

8,054 posts

269 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Get it on Watchdog.

ArsE92

21,371 posts

217 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Alucidnation said:
Did you not measure the van before you bought it to make sure, rather than rely on sales blurb?
This.

I don't buy a car without measuring the cylindrical capacity myself first.

clowesy

294 posts

151 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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I think I'd be getting in touch with Ford UK or the supplier/dealership right away. It's advertised as being able to do a job it can't, surely you have ammunition to reject the vehicle in that regard. Seems like a rather large and potentially very embarrassing oversight on the part of Ford.

eltax91

10,769 posts

236 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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You say it has all the modcons? You haven't got some spurious option or something that changes the load space? I dunno, fancy upgraded seats or something??

Any pictures? Could be a laugh!!

skyrover

12,700 posts

234 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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A quick check shows that it has been discussed already on the transit forums

http://fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=65&am...

consensus seem to be that 8x4 will fit flat on the floor, but wont on side due to bulkhead shape.

bristolracer

5,952 posts

179 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Bet they fit without the Bulkhead. The wording is ambiguous as the claim about the 8x4 is made before mention of the bulkhead, after the bulkhead is mentioned they claim square metre-age not length.

However i do agree its a bit s*** bearing in mind who the vans are aimed at, ive always thought the business of laying sheet materials on the floor is unrealistic as every trade has other tool boxes etc as well as materials. My lads T5 with a bulkhead will only take sheets at an angle, his mates without takes them straight. Was the same in my Vivaro IIRC.

HTP99

25,340 posts

170 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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You may find that like the Trafic, the upper part of the bulkhead protrudes into the load space so therefore you can only fit 8'x4' board is either flat or angled, TBH I would say that your are stuffed; it is clear that the boards do fit, they just don't fit how you want them to, you should have measured up properly and perhaps gone for the LWB.

Had a guy in a few weeks ago measuring up the new Trafic, he said that whilst the Trafic will take an 8'x4' board flat on the floor, the Transit will take more stacked up on top of each other as the bulkhead protrusion into the load area is higher than in the Trafic; he was taking measurements to reflect how he would be carrying the boards.

skyrover

12,700 posts

234 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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It does make one wonder if Ford ever talks with tradesmen?

A van should surely be able to take an 8x4 sheet regardless of bulkhead shape.

bernhund

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3,798 posts

223 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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ArsE92 said:
Alucidnation said:
Did you not measure the van before you bought it to make sure, rather than rely on sales blurb?
This.

I don't buy a car without measuring the cylindrical capacity myself first.
laugh

Seriously? I can't rely on what Ford say in their blurb???

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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ArsE92 said:
Alucidnation said:
Did you not measure the van before you bought it to make sure, rather than rely on sales blurb?
This.

I don't buy a car without measuring the cylindrical capacity myself first.
Exactly.

How many sheets of 8x4 can you fit in yours?

Might help the OP.

bernhund

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3,798 posts

223 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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Though this is no excuse for my assumptions, 8x4's did fit, on their side, straight along one side in the previous Transit that I bought in 2010. The only reason to lay boards flat on the floor is if you are a delivery vehicle driver and I can't imagine a company that supplies building materials are going to buy a swb Transit. This is just a major step backward for Ford in my opinion. What on earth were they thinking?
There are no fancy modcons that I have that would make a difference to the bulkhead position either. I've emailed the salesman and will see what comes back.

bernhund

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3,798 posts

223 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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HTP99 said:
You may find that like the Trafic, the upper part of the bulkhead protrudes into the load space so therefore you can only fit 8'x4' board is either flat or angled, TBH I would say that your are stuffed; it is clear that the boards do fit, they just don't fit how you want them to, you should have measured up properly and perhaps gone for the LWB.

Had a guy in a few weeks ago measuring up the new Trafic, he said that whilst the Trafic will take an 8'x4' board flat on the floor, the Transit will take more stacked up on top of each other as the bulkhead protrusion into the load area is higher than in the Trafic; he was taking measurements to reflect how he would be carrying the boards.
This is all well and good, and I've been there before when buying vans. However, why would I for one minute think that going from a 2010 Transit to a 2014, Ford would have made the length shorter? Especially as the description I posted from their website states 8x4's fit on their side. We are talking about the single most important part of a tradesman's vehicle and I think Ford have been deceitful in their description.

bernhund

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3,798 posts

223 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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Alucidnation said:
ArsE92 said:
Alucidnation said:
Did you not measure the van before you bought it to make sure, rather than rely on sales blurb?
This.

I don't buy a car without measuring the cylindrical capacity myself first.
Exactly.

How many sheets of 8x4 can you fit in yours?

Might help the OP.
Alucidnation, I think arse92 was probably being sarcastic, but it's always difficult to tell online!


Edited by bernhund on Tuesday 9th December 08:08

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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bernhund said:
Alucidnation said:
ArsE92 said:
Alucidnation said:
Did you not measure the van before you bought it to make sure, rather than rely on sales blurb?
This.

I don't buy a car without measuring the cylindrical capacity myself first.
Exactly.

How many sheets of 8x4 can you fit in yours?

Might help the OP.
Alucidnation, I think arse92 was probably being sarcastic, but it's always difficult to tell online!
wink



Anyhoo, have you managed to get a response yet?


Might be worth trying to call or visiting the dealer rather then email.