RE: New Hyundais of interest
Wednesday 10th December 2014

Don't get too excited. The i30 Turbo is not a 300hp Golf R rival and the i20 is not a sleek RWD two-door for battling the BRZ. However, they do represent a performance-oriented focus for future Hyundai models and that surely has to be a good thing.
New Hyundais of interest
You read that right! Now when is the i30 Turbo engine going in the i20 coupe?

Going from the spec sheet the i30 Turbo appears similar to the Kia Pro_cee'd GT, a car well received last year. Power is down slightly at 186hp from the 1.6-litre turbo with an identical 195lb ft. It's certainly on the mild side of the hot hatch spectrum (eight seconds to 62mph and 136mph top speed) and will rival cars like the SEAT Leon FR and Peugeot 308 GT. There is mention of a 'Nurburgring-tuned' chassis and we know how keen the Hyundai-Kia alliance is to make decent handling cars from its test centre. It should be quite good; what a turnaround when the media is expecting a decent hot hatch from Korea...
But there could be an even better one. The i20 coupe is a three-door version of the i20 supermini, designed specifically to be very different to the five-door. Looks quite sharp, doesn't it? For now the most potent engine is a 100hp 1.4 with a 1.0-litre three-cylinder turbo due next year.
However, with the i30 Turbo's engine you would absolutely have a proper B-segment hot hatch. Exactly a year ago today Hyundai announced its 'N' performance brand with its WRC entry. Where better to start than a 190hp i20? It would be more accessible than something based on the i30, tie in with the WRC campaign perfectly and enter a fantastically competitive marketplace. Imagine an i20 N taking it to the Fiesta ST, Polo GTI, 208 GTI, Clio Renaultsport and beating a couple. That would be a story.
This remains guesswork for now, of course. All that has been confirmed is a warm i30 and a new supermini from Hyundai. But we remain optimistic about Hyundai's hot hatch future. Bring on 2015!
Discussion
Good cars. Now't wrong with them.
I think Hyundai are occupying the place VW used to hold, before they started charging way too much for them.
With a massive warranty, plenty of kit and complete ease of ownership, maybe these are now the true "peoples cars".
For everyday driving, these cars are hard to beat. Only brand snobbery stands in their way IMO.
I think Hyundai are occupying the place VW used to hold, before they started charging way too much for them.
With a massive warranty, plenty of kit and complete ease of ownership, maybe these are now the true "peoples cars".
For everyday driving, these cars are hard to beat. Only brand snobbery stands in their way IMO.
Such a shame Hyundai don't bring the Genesis over here, nice looking 348bhp v6 engined rear wheel drive coupe
https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/index.asp...
If ever you catch a TV show called Burn Notice there is often a nice blue Hyundai Genesis being driven enthusiastically around the streets of Miami
https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/index.asp...
If ever you catch a TV show called Burn Notice there is often a nice blue Hyundai Genesis being driven enthusiastically around the streets of Miami
toppstuff said:
Good cars. Now't wrong with them.
I think Hyundai are occupying the place VW used to hold, before they started charging way too much for them.
With a massive warranty, plenty of kit and complete ease of ownership, maybe these are now the true "peoples cars".
For everyday driving, these cars are hard to beat. Only brand snobbery stands in their way IMO.
Looked at both Hyundai and Kia vs Golf and they just feel crap compared to Golf. It must annoy the heck out of every other manufacturer but Golf just feels a couple of cuts above them.I think Hyundai are occupying the place VW used to hold, before they started charging way too much for them.
With a massive warranty, plenty of kit and complete ease of ownership, maybe these are now the true "peoples cars".
For everyday driving, these cars are hard to beat. Only brand snobbery stands in their way IMO.
That said, we got an unusually good deal on the Golf - at list prices maybe people can live with the difference (and the extra warranty, which was our prime motivation for looking).
peterg1955 said:
Such a shame Hyundai don't bring the Genesis over here, nice looking 348bhp v6 engined rear wheel drive coupe
https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/index.asp...
If ever you catch a TV show called Burn Notice there is often a nice blue Hyundai Genesis being driven enthusiastically around the streets of Miami
Sure I saw one of those on a visit to Germany earlier this year and it really stood out - fantastic looking car! https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/index.asp...
If ever you catch a TV show called Burn Notice there is often a nice blue Hyundai Genesis being driven enthusiastically around the streets of Miami
Sheepshanks said:
toppstuff said:
Good cars. Now't wrong with them.
I think Hyundai are occupying the place VW used to hold, before they started charging way too much for them.
With a massive warranty, plenty of kit and complete ease of ownership, maybe these are now the true "peoples cars".
For everyday driving, these cars are hard to beat. Only brand snobbery stands in their way IMO.
Looked at both Hyundai and Kia vs Golf and they just feel crap compared to Golf. It must annoy the heck out of every other manufacturer but Golf just feels a couple of cuts above them.I think Hyundai are occupying the place VW used to hold, before they started charging way too much for them.
With a massive warranty, plenty of kit and complete ease of ownership, maybe these are now the true "peoples cars".
For everyday driving, these cars are hard to beat. Only brand snobbery stands in their way IMO.
That said, we got an unusually good deal on the Golf - at list prices maybe people can live with the difference (and the extra warranty, which was our prime motivation for looking).
Pommygranite said:
toppstuff said:
Only brand snobbery stands in their way IMO.
That, their blandness and extreme mediocrity to drive.They're just rental car white goods.
Hyundai may be equivalent to an LG washing machine. But a Golf is equivalent to a Bosch washing machine.
Both are simple white goods.
r11co said:
Could be levelled at any middle-of-the-range model from any manufacturer.
I agree. Most standard large hatchback and small saloon cars are a bit dull, it's not like Kia and Hyundai are worse than anybody else. Plus it's nice to have more competition for the other hot hatches. 
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