Plunging pump prices.
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Ginge R

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4,761 posts

249 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Unless you were stark raving mad, you wouldn't be buying that Prius right now.. would you? If prices drop even further, bad news and xmas headaches for manufacturers heavily into hybrid tech.

r11co

6,244 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Flawed logic. Hybrids were never about saving money (or the planet....)

Liokault

2,837 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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r11co said:
Flawed logic. Hybrids were never about saving money (or the planet....)
No, they are about being smug, as one can see from your post.

Mound Dawg

1,929 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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I was a bit surprised to fill up at Asda a for "only" £1.15 a litre the other day.

Nice, but I suspect that it won't last.

Benbay001

5,894 posts

187 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Mound Dawg said:
I was a bit surprised to fill up at Asda a for "only" £1.15 a litre the other day.Nice, but I suspect that it won't last.
Why not?

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Benbay001 said:
Why not?
Because oil prices go up as well as down which affects the price of fuel so thats a perfectly reasonable statement to make because at some point in the future the oil price will go up again. smile

Ari

19,826 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Ginge R said:
Unless you were stark raving mad, you wouldn't be buying that Prius right now.. would you? .
Why, is it free where you are?

Fuel is still very expensive, but like house prices, we've become conditioned to accept it as acceptable.

Remember the fuel protests a few years back? It was under £1/litre when people were moved to blockade refinerys in protest at the exorbitant cost.

okie592

2,711 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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The Suns latest campaign made me laugh. " force the oil greedy oil companies to drop it from 120p a liter to 115p a liter" what about all the tax on tax we pay?

Stuart70

4,166 posts

213 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Shale producers vs Middle East with a bit of bankrupting Russia thrown in at present.

All geopolitical wranglings.

Given this, I suspect it will bounce back up when the games play out. It is not in any of the players long term interests to keep the barrel price low?!

pad58

12,549 posts

211 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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How come it's still 1.49 here in Welsh Wales?

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

170 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Hope it doesn't last. The UK industry is on its knees at the moment. It costs more to get the stuff out than it can be sold for. The reduction in superdupertax might help reduce the losses in the UKCS but are unlikely to result in a load of new work. The supply chain to the UK oil & gas industry is estimated to be worth £35billion and employ 1 in 80 employees in the UK.

98elise

32,724 posts

191 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Liokault said:
r11co said:
Flawed logic. Hybrids were never about saving money (or the planet....)
No, they are about being smug, as one can see from your post.
If fuel is cheap then it costs less to run a hybrid. Our local station taxi rank is full of them, regularly more than 50% of the cars are prius. I've asked a couple of drivers why, and the answer is the same. Cheap to run, and bullet proof.

Personally I want a full EV as our family car, but it has nothing to do with saving the planet. The EV drivetrain appeals to me for something that i treat like white goods.

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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jamieduff1981 said:
Hope it doesn't last. The UK industry is on its knees at the moment. It costs more to get the stuff out than it can be sold for. The reduction in superdupertax might help reduce the losses in the UKCS but are unlikely to result in a load of new work. The supply chain to the UK oil & gas industry is estimated to be worth £35billion and employ 1 in 80 employees in the UK.
The vast majority of those 1 in 80 people will be those dealing with the end product, the 10s of thousands of petrol station employees, those working for energy suppliers and working to maintain the gas network, none of those people will be in any way adversely effected by a low oil price

Bottom line is, UK is still a massive net importer of oil, so the winners massively out weigh the losers

Ginge R

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4,761 posts

249 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Ari said:
Why, is it free where you are?

Fuel is still very expensive, but like house prices, we've become conditioned to accept it as acceptable.

Remember the fuel protests a few years back? It was under £1/litre when people were moved to blockade refinerys in protest at the exorbitant cost.
I was referring to mainstream consumer sentiment and the possibility that prices could (should, if you discount the rocket and feather principle) drop further, and stay low for a bit. I wonder if people will hold onto their larger cars for a bit, if they were intending to change due to fuel cost, and what impact that would have. I just like behavioural thinking I guess.

Silverbullet767

11,330 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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£1.259 for my usual V power unleaded this morning, I should be happy, but I'm not. I work in the oil industry and these low prices will hurt.

DervVW

2,223 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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well im happy its costing less

thatdude

2,660 posts

157 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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I'm cool with it costing less

But I dont think it will last - I read an article (i think it was on the BBC website) last week, and the various nations (representatives thereof) have said they will just let it sort itself out and stabilise, suggesting to me it'll just go back up to roughly where it was

As for hybrids...well, they are still a viable tactic to saving fuel for the owner. A car that does >60 mpg will do it regardless of current oil prices. You still stand to save money



StuntmanMike

15,179 posts

181 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Benbay001 said:
Mound Dawg said:
I was a bit surprised to fill up at Asda a for "only" £1.15 a litre the other day.

Nice, but I suspect that it won't last.
Why not?
Because there has been rumours about the fuel escalater being reintroduced, all immaterial because super unleaded has not dropped one penny near me.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

212 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Benbay001 said:
Mound Dawg said:
I was a bit surprised to fill up at Asda a for "only" £1.15 a litre the other day.

Nice, but I suspect that it won't last.
Why not?
Because it never does

Bill

58,769 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Stuart70 said:
Shale producers vs Middle East with a bit of bankrupting Russia thrown in at present.

All geopolitical wranglings.

Given this, I suspect it will bounce back up when the games play out. It is not in any of the players long term interests to keep the barrel price low?!
yes OPEC are cutting of their nose to spite their face and it can't last.