10 out of 10 for Cayman
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Have the schools broken up already?
There's not the slightest doubt in my mind that Boxster/Cayman are a couple of the world's best ever sportscars - at any price.
SkinnyP - when you get your Ferrari; feel free to drop back with some pics. Don't keep us waiting too long....
Best ever sportcars? I'm sorry but "LOL".There's not the slightest doubt in my mind that Boxster/Cayman are a couple of the world's best ever sportscars - at any price.
SkinnyP - when you get your Ferrari; feel free to drop back with some pics. Don't keep us waiting too long....
How much is a decent 360, £50k odd? Hardly unattainable for people on this forum.
Would love to try a 360 or 430, but I haven't so won't comment on them
I do have a V8 Vantage and I can confirm it's a very special car to drive. There's a sense of occasion that's hard to quantify when driving the Aston
But as a sports car, my Cayman is significantly better. Nothing I have ever sat is so responsive and agile. The best sports coupe for <£60k new - almost certainly
I do have a V8 Vantage and I can confirm it's a very special car to drive. There's a sense of occasion that's hard to quantify when driving the Aston
But as a sports car, my Cayman is significantly better. Nothing I have ever sat is so responsive and agile. The best sports coupe for <£60k new - almost certainly
Why would I want a 911 when I could have a Cayman?
Anyway the new Cayman probably is faster, more usable, practical and god knows what else than a Vantage, 360 or whatever but that’s not really my point.
The latter two will buzz, fizz and have you tingle from head to toe. The new 981 is just like driving a Ford Focus, and I don’t want a Ford Focus I want a sports car.
Anyway the new Cayman probably is faster, more usable, practical and god knows what else than a Vantage, 360 or whatever but that’s not really my point.
The latter two will buzz, fizz and have you tingle from head to toe. The new 981 is just like driving a Ford Focus, and I don’t want a Ford Focus I want a sports car.
SkinnyP said:
Best ever sportcars? I'm sorry but "LOL".
How much is a decent 360, £50k odd? Hardly unattainable for people on this forum.
Good luck to you with that one. Poorly built and expensive to run.....not my idea of fun car ownership. I appreciate good build quality and being able to put 35K miles on the thing each year without drama = Porsche. But each to their own.How much is a decent 360, £50k odd? Hardly unattainable for people on this forum.
SkinnyP said:
Why would I want a 911 when I could have a Cayman?
Anyway the new Cayman probably is faster, more usable, practical and god knows what else than a Vantage, 360 or whatever but that’s not really my point.
The latter two will buzz, fizz and have you tingle from head to toe. The new 981 is just like driving a Ford Focus, and I don’t want a Ford Focus I want a sports car.
Well I've just sold my Vantage S and am seriously contemplating a Cayman S or GTS. As a sense of occasion car the Vantage is great, it's a great GT car that has sporting abilities.Anyway the new Cayman probably is faster, more usable, practical and god knows what else than a Vantage, 360 or whatever but that’s not really my point.
The latter two will buzz, fizz and have you tingle from head to toe. The new 981 is just like driving a Ford Focus, and I don’t want a Ford Focus I want a sports car.
Will the Cayman have the same feel good factor perhaps not but any car that comes in the top 3 of the EVO Car of the Year, only beaten by the F Type coupe R and Ferrari 458 Speciale, is going to have to be pretty special.
I haven't driven the 360 so can't comment first hand but from what I have read over the years it is more of the sports car out of the two you are looking at.
Touch unjust calling the Cayman a Focus alike car, it's something you would buy because you want a car that is about how you get from A to B not how fast you get from A to B.
Driving on UK roads means there really isn't the opportunity most of the time to go quicker than a hot hatch so it's more about choosing how you want to achieve that.
Give the Vantage a go it really is a lovely place to spend time but if you think a Cayman is like a focus then the easy access to the performance in the Vantage will probably leave you thinking the same thing.
Cayman, Vantage, 911, 360 etc are there to make you smile while you drive them. Focus, golf etc are there to get from A to B efficiently.
Enjoy finding out which one you enjoy though, thats half the fun

BGHughes said:
Would love to try a 360 or 430, but I haven't so won't comment on them
I do have a V8 Vantage and I can confirm it's a very special car to drive. There's a sense of occasion that's hard to quantify when driving the Aston
But as a sports car, my Cayman is significantly better. Nothing I have ever sat is so responsive and agile. The best sports coupe for <£60k new - almost certainly
If you want agile and responsive, try any of the track oriented cars like the Caterham sevens or Arial atoms. A complete quantum leap in those areas. However, I would not like to drive long distances in one.I do have a V8 Vantage and I can confirm it's a very special car to drive. There's a sense of occasion that's hard to quantify when driving the Aston
But as a sports car, my Cayman is significantly better. Nothing I have ever sat is so responsive and agile. The best sports coupe for <£60k new - almost certainly
I think that the 'go get a Caterham if you want to go fast' argument is ok to a point. there is absolutely nothing like driving a big, well developed GT car on a race track. They offer a higher level of reward. I own a Series 1 elise 190 which produces almost 300 bhp and is very quick on the lap. It is a lovely delicate little thing to drive and I absolutely love it, but I much prefer driving a GT3 or similar big GT car on the race track - far more rewarding.
Going back to the thread ….Might I ask what credentials 'CARWOW' have to make such an announcement??
Going back to the thread ….Might I ask what credentials 'CARWOW' have to make such an announcement??
Carwow? 
A laughable name and a tediously written article......
Almost like reading the Johanns
hotel guide.....every hotel is so perfect......really?
We all know the Cayman is a very competent package.......but what about the poor gearing of the 'manuel', the inert electric steering and the farty over sythesised exhaust....

A laughable name and a tediously written article......

Almost like reading the Johanns

We all know the Cayman is a very competent package.......but what about the poor gearing of the 'manuel', the inert electric steering and the farty over sythesised exhaust....

Steve Rance said:
I think that the 'go get a Caterham if you want to go fast' argument is ok to a point. there is absolutely nothing like driving a big, well developed GT car on a race track. They offer a higher level of reward. I own a Series 1 elise 190 which produces almost 300 bhp and is very quick on the lap. It is a lovely delicate little thing to drive and I absolutely love it, but I much prefer driving a GT3 or similar big GT car on the race track - far more rewarding.
Very much a personal thing. Can't speak from much personal experience but my son organises track days and has driven practically everything you can name on the track (including GT3 Porsches, Ferraris, Astons, Mclaren, mosler etc etc) recons the exige is his favourite road car on track).av185 said:
what about the poor gearing of the 'manuel', 
Que? 
My own experience of the car is that with 6 gears to choose from there's always a suitable one and it's a very slick box. When you think it's not long ago sportscars had 5 gears then you wonder how people ever managed to get by at all! The secret of driving a manual 981 is to be fully familiar with the ratios and pick the right one - not shuffle religiously up and down the box as if it was a sequential shift.
981s are drivers cars. If someone's sole ambition is to leave the traffic lights as quickly as possible then no 2WD sportscar will ever make much sense. Tedious 4WD saloons with a turbo will "win" every time. Personally I think there's more to the driving experience than that.
bcr5784 said:
Very much a personal thing. Can't speak from much personal experience but my son organises track days and has driven practically everything you can name on the track (including GT3 Porsches, Ferraris, Astons, Mclaren, mosler etc etc) recons the exige is his favourite road car on track).
In my experience road cars are very poor on track. The car's too heavy, suspension too soft and the brakes just can't cut it. To drive on track you're much better off with a proper racing car or a "trackday special" from Caterham or Lotus. The key is to get the weight out; adding power can't overcome the laws of physics when you get to the twisty bits.I looked very hard at Exige V6 before heading to Mr Porsche's shop. Regrettably for Lotus I was looking for a modern road car as opposed to a fast but heavily compromised track rocket. Exige is an astounding driving experience - but after 20 minutes on the road I'd have had enough.
Ozzie Osmond said:
av185 said:
what about the poor gearing of the 'manuel', 
Que? 
My own experience of the car is that with 6 gears to choose from there's always a suitable one and it's a very slick box. When you think it's not long ago sportscars had 5 gears then you wonder how people ever managed to get by at all! The secret of driving a manual 981 is to be fully familiar with the ratios and pick the right one - not shuffle religiously up and down the box as if it was a sequential shift.
981s are drivers cars. If someone's sole ambition is to leave the traffic lights as quickly as possible then no 2WD sportscar will ever make much sense. Tedious 4WD saloons with a turbo will "win" every time. Personally I think there's more to the driving experience than that.
For me personally, whilst capable and undoubtedly great handling it just seemed a little bland -also not a fan of the design. (although definitely an improvement over the original cayman)
MrML said:
Pretty much every review I've read, whilst complimentary about the cayman generally, has criticised the gear ratios for being poor, suggesting that you need second or even first for tight bends and that third extends over 100mph, IIRC?
I own a Cayman R pdk (blasphemy, I know) and even with 7 ratios I will occasionally pull 1st in tight bends -it is still has long gears.Ozzie Osmond said:
I guess my preference is to drive cars and make up my own mind. Then if I like them, I buy them. I don't care much what Clarkson or Harris say about them or how quickly they go round the Nurburgring. At the end of the day it's the sales figures which tell the story.

Its quite sad if someone feels they have justify their purchase by quoting a magazine.
aelord said:
MrML said:
Pretty much every review I've read, whilst complimentary about the cayman generally, has criticised the gear ratios for being poor, suggesting that you need second or even first for tight bends and that third extends over 100mph, IIRC?
I own a Cayman R pdk (blasphemy, I know) and even with 7 ratios I will occasionally pull 1st in tight bends -it is still has long gears.Gassing Station | Boxster/Cayman | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff