How low will fuel go? Is 99p a litre feasible in the UK
How low will fuel go? Is 99p a litre feasible in the UK
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Thankyou4calling

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11,022 posts

203 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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I paid 119.9 per litre yesterday (Regular diesel) I'm sure there are cheaper places.

What are the odds of it dropping to 99p, is it realistic?

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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Petrol is 113.8 in some places in Swansea with Diesel at about 119.8

It's decreasing everyweek from what I can see, doubt it'll remain like this for too long though.
This time next year I reckon it'll be back up to 1.30

Hoofy

80,124 posts

312 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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Saw 115 in SW London.

I can see it dropping below 110. Doesn't help that I am in the market for another car and big engined fuel guzzlers are looking attractive again. biggrin

S0 What

3,358 posts

202 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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114 in N London (tesco), probably 113 at the next station, i live within 1/2 mile of a tesco, morrisons and a sainsburys so they are allways battling with prices, the 6 other fuel stations withing that 1/2 mile seem to keep up ok, never more than a penny dearer which is good going for an independant IMHO.

Xaero

4,063 posts

245 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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Tesco and Asda said they can do 112.9p this weekend.

I'm not sure if we will see 99p, but it would make me smile if we did. It does seem feasible now, I wouldn't have guessed that a month ago though.

ensignia

947 posts

265 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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112.9 at Tesco on Purley Way.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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No chance

I am surprised the tax hasn't been raised already


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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If there wasn't a General Election in a few months time you can bet your life the government would already be reintroducing the fuel tax escalator which they cancelled a few months ago.

Lower fuel price hits George Osborne because every 5p the price goes down he loses 1p in VAT revenue, even though the actual fuel duty (about 58p per litre) doesn't reduce. 1p may not sound much but it's a 2% reduction in his tax take and 2% of a humungous number is still a very big number! Namely, getting on for £1billion !!

"For every litre of unleaded petrol bought in the UK, 61 per cent of the pump price goes to the government as fuel duty and VAT. Britain taxes its drivers more heavily than any other EU nation despite the government having frozen fuel duty since March 2011."

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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ensignia said:
112.9 at Tesco on Purley Way.
This one?

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=tesco+near+Purley...

What a difference two months can make!

photosnob

1,339 posts

148 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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How much difference would 99p make? I'm paying 119.9. So 20p litre. Assuming you have a 50 litre tank you could potential save £10 a tank. Given that would last most people 2/3 weeks. We are looking at between £3-5 a week. Hardly life changing is it... I'd rather just have a stable fuel price rather than this up/down rubbish.

Those are just average figures. But they do demonstrate the mass hysteria that is caused over nothing.

mattwilko

70 posts

152 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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No chance. Isn't the tax already above a pound a litre anyway?

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

256 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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photosnob said:
How much difference would 99p make? I'm paying 119.9. So 20p litre. Assuming you have a 50 litre tank you could potential save £10 a tank. Given that would last most people 2/3 weeks. We are looking at between £3-5 a week. Hardly life changing is it... I'd rather just have a stable fuel price rather than this up/down rubbish.

Those are just average figures. But they do demonstrate the mass hysteria that is caused over nothing.
My perfectly ordinary commute which I'll admit to doing at just 20mpg uses an £80 tank on its own. Plus other running around, 90p a gallon would save me about £50/month. That's my road tax, insurance, MOT all paid for. If you won't miss it, perhaps you'd bank transfer me £600 now and I'll call again this time next year biggrin

Simon.

jke11y

3,200 posts

267 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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mattwilko said:
No chance. Isn't the tax already above a pound a litre anyway?
It was mentioned on BBC Breakfast the other day the tax is approx 80p in a litre.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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mattwilko said:
No chance. Isn't the tax already above a pound a litre anyway?
Tax is a percentage isn't it?

So as the price drops so will the tax paid.

Edit no sure on that, happy to be corrected

mph999

2,774 posts

250 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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photosnob said:
How much difference would 99p make? I'm paying 119.9. So 20p litre. Assuming you have a 50 litre tank you could potential save £10 a tank. Given that would last most people 2/3 weeks. We are looking at between £3-5 a week. Hardly life changing is it... I'd rather just have a stable fuel price rather than this up/down rubbish.

Those are just average figures. But they do demonstrate the mass hysteria that is caused over nothing.
True, but I use about a tank a week just doing day to day stuff, ok my task is quite small (Mini) but over a month 20p less a litre adds up.

photosnob

1,339 posts

148 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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ferrariF50lover said:
My perfectly ordinary commute which I'll admit to doing at just 20mpg uses an £80 tank on its own. Plus other running around, 90p a gallon would save me about £50/month. That's my road tax, insurance, MOT all paid for. If you won't miss it, perhaps you'd bank transfer me £600 now and I'll call again this time next year biggrin

Simon.
So £600 a year - for a statistical outlier, talking about numbers no one is even contemplating (90p/lire).

If you are really going to miss/worry about £600 a year then swap your car for something more mainstream - you will be man £k's up.

This site seems to be fully of people who pride themselves on picking the most expensive running cost cars, and then winging and moaning about unimportant things, like the price of fuel and road tax.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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photosnob said:
ferrariF50lover said:
My perfectly ordinary commute which I'll admit to doing at just 20mpg uses an £80 tank on its own. Plus other running around, 90p a gallon would save me about £50/month. That's my road tax, insurance, MOT all paid for. If you won't miss it, perhaps you'd bank transfer me £600 now and I'll call again this time next year biggrin

Simon.
So £600 a year - for a statistical outlier, talking about numbers no one is even contemplating (90p/lire).

If you are really going to miss/worry about £600 a year then swap your car for something more mainstream - you will be man £k's up.

This site seems to be fully of people who pride themselves on picking the most expensive running cost cars, and then winging and moaning about unimportant things, like the price of fuel and road tax.
I don't think it's a case of missing £600 it's a case of I'd rather have £600 in my pocket whilst still enjoying the car I want to drive rather than one that would be economical to drive.

bungle

1,874 posts

270 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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ZOLLAR said:
Tax is a percentage isn't it?

So as the price drops so will the tax paid.

Edit no sure on that, happy to be corrected
Yes and no. The VAT is a %, but the fuel duty is a flat rate per litre. (and we pay VAT on fuel duty as well... tax on tax...)

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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bungle said:
ZOLLAR said:
Tax is a percentage isn't it?

So as the price drops so will the tax paid.

Edit no sure on that, happy to be corrected
Yes and no. The VAT is a %, but the fuel duty is a flat rate per litre. (and we pay VAT on fuel duty as well... tax on tax...)
Nice one thumbup

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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ZOLLAR said:
Tax is a percentage isn't it?

So as the price drops so will the tax paid.

Edit no sure on that, happy to be corrected
You are right to be unsure! Fuel duty is a fixed amount per litre. It's only the VAT which moves as a percentage.

What's really nasty is that VAT is calculated on the total price so you pay VAT on the tax you just paid! A bit like paying your Council Tax out of taxed income, which doubles the burden.