Taxing a car I've just bought? Very confused
Taxing a car I've just bought? Very confused
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ProjectZS

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144 posts

147 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Hi, I am really confused about taxing a new car I'm picking up on Friday. Now the guy who owned it before me, sent off the logbook recently but hasn't had it back yet. My question is, if the logbook hasn't come by Friday, will I be able to get it taxed and drive it home or not? Really confused about what to do, if I'll have to wait etc.

The Moose

23,684 posts

239 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Why has he sent off the V5C?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

254 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Yeah why? A plate change I presume?

I wouldn't buy it until the V5 was back anyway.

ProjectZS

Original Poster:

144 posts

147 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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I'm not sure, what are you supposed to send off as I've never done it before?

ProjectZS

Original Poster:

144 posts

147 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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My bad, the guy says he's waiting for the log book not sent it off, what does this mean? Forgive me for such a stupid question but I haven't a clue

taylor172

833 posts

234 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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it means he hasn't got the log book / v5c and you'll not be able to tax the vehicle.

I wouldn't buy it until the v5c is in his possession.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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ProjectZS said:
My bad, the guy says he's waiting for the log book not sent it off, what does this mean?
Same difference. You won't get the most recent V5C/2 green slip, so you won't be able to tax it online when you get it.

Either he's just bought it (bedroom trader?), he's just moved house, or he's taking a personal plate off.

Wait for the V5C.

ProjectZS

Original Poster:

144 posts

147 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Okay, the guy says he's got the green slip so it can still be taxed and that the log book should be coming any time now, when the logbook comes though will I be able to tax it with a new owner slip or something?

DuraAce

4,272 posts

190 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Yes

jk888

110 posts

156 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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I don't understand why he has sent the V5 off at all. The seller doesn't usually send it off until the vehicle has actually been sold, unless it is for a plate change. Did the car have a private reg on it to your knowledge before he put it up for sale?

xRIEx

8,180 posts

178 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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ProjectZS said:
Okay, the guy says he's got the green slip
That makes it sound to me like he's just bought it himself and now he's selling it on to you.

ProjectZS said:
so it can still be taxed
If my sentence above is correct then he's talking bullst - if you tax it on his green slip/new keeper supplement then that tax will be removed when the vehicle gets registered to you, you will have to tax it again, and he will get a nice fat refund of the remaining tax you previously paid (if you do a 6 or 12 month lump).

ProjectZS said:
when the logbook comes though will I be able to tax it with a new owner slip or something?
Yes, once the V5 is through in the seller's name, and you and he fill out the change of registered keeper details, you can tax it on the new keeper's supplement from that V5.

ProjectZS

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144 posts

147 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Okay, I've ran it through a HPI check, all clear and it says he's owned it for a year, so the only thing I can imagine is that he's lost the V5 and had to get a new one or like you said changed the plate? I'll have to ask him tomorrow about it all but thanks

ProjectZS

Original Poster:

144 posts

147 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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xRIEx said:
Yes, once the V5 is through in the seller's name, and you and he fill out the change of registered keeper details, you can tax it on the new keeper's supplement from that V5.
Oh right I see, so when he gets the V5 back in his name, I can tax on new keeper supplement, forgive my stupidity but despite driving for two years, I've never actually gone through the process of registering a car

Torquey

1,961 posts

258 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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ProjectZS said:
Oh right I see, so when he gets the V5 back in his name, I can tax on new keeper supplement, forgive my stupidity but despite driving for two years, I've never actually gone through the process of registering a car
That's correct - you should only tax it when he gets the v5 back in his name.

As someone said - don't tax it with the green slip he currently has. As the seller suggested.

A plate change should appear on the hpi check.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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ProjectZS said:
Okay, the guy says he's got the green slip so it can still be taxed
But it's not the MOST RECENT green slip. So there's a fighting chance that the change-of-keeper will trigger a refund for that tax.

Wait until he's got the new V5C in paw. Check the Doc Ref on http://motinfo.direct.gov.uk/internet/jsp/ECSID-In... before taxing.

AnotherGareth

215 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Could it be the seller has got a Logbook-loan and is waiting for a duplicate V5C in order to sell it fraudulently?

Osinjak

5,453 posts

151 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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What's a logbook loan?

Sixpackpert

5,337 posts

244 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Osinjak said:
What's a logbook loan?
I would guess it is a loan using the car as security.

cars1993

390 posts

234 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Yes you can. Fill out an online form on the DVLA website it will have your full address and direct debit details. All sorted

JustinF

6,795 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Had a similar issue with a V5 that never made it to the DVLA, you can tax it at the Post Office using a V62, as long as you have the Vin.
The current registered keeper will then receive a notification that someone has registered a claim on the vehicle, which is where it could get messy if it's someone playing silly buggers and disputes it (in my case this was a non-issue)