Cars That Have To Be Driven With The Driver Aids On
Cars That Have To Be Driven With The Driver Aids On
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ZNSsupercars

Original Poster:

976 posts

144 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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I vote 458 Speciale


Renovation

2,031 posts

151 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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None - if you need the aids, you shouldn't be driving it.

Crusoe

4,124 posts

261 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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599 GTO and F12 would also be on the list.

All new Mercedes (can't switch it fully off)

moffat

1,020 posts

255 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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You can switch off all the aids in my C63 and in other AMG's.

I don't see the point of switching off if on the road if wet or on a motorway.

It's nothing to do with NOT being able to drive it, more to do with having some life saving tools to help if something happens - oil, having to swerve to avoid something, blow-out, unexpected event.

To say that if you need them you can't drive is total bks.

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

189 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Obvious car is obvious:


Crusoe

4,124 posts

261 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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moffat said:
You can switch off all the aids in my C63 and in other AMG's.
Merc with the exception of some AMG models then. thought I thought the systems kicked back in if you activated the abs so maybe not fully off?

budgie smuggler

6,071 posts

189 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Koenigsegg Agera R. Saw a demo a while back and their system looked incredible.

R8VXF

6,794 posts

145 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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moffat said:
You can switch off all the aids in my C63 and in other AMG's.

I don't see the point of switching off if on the road if wet or on a motorway.

It's nothing to do with NOT being able to drive it, more to do with having some life saving tools to help if something happens - oil, having to swerve to avoid something, blow-out, unexpected event.

To say that if you need them you can't drive is total bks.
Same in the VXR8 GTS, glad they were on whilst driving to Goodwood yesterday, managed to break traction in 4th at 70mph as the roads were so cold, but as the TCS was on all I got was a little arse shake and a flashing light, rather than the back of the car becoming the front of the car!

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

189 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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moffat said:
It's nothing to do with NOT being able to drive it, more to do with having some life saving tools to help if something happens - oil, having to swerve to avoid something, blow-out, unexpected event.

To say that if you need them you can't drive is total bks.
Like using a calculator. You SHOULD be able to do the calculation without help. Doesn't mean you HAVE to do it without help.

Renovation

2,031 posts

151 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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moffat said:
To say that if you need them you can't drive is total bks.
I presume you failed comprehension - READ the title.

Here you go:

Cars That HAVE To Be Driven With The Driver Aids On

The answer is NONE

Some are designed that you can't turn them off easily, sometimes when you're not in the mood and just want to get home it's nice to have them on, but that wasn't the question.

Lee540

1,586 posts

174 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Audi A3 2.0 TDi, try pressing the brake pedal whilst also on the throttle and it kills the engine, also, lift off the throttle and quickly press the brake, braking force multiplied by 1 million.

Pretty sure this can't be deactivated?

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

170 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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I'd venture that just about any car could be driven with all of the driver aids switched off, assuming they switch off.

In a fair number however that driving would be pussy footing around. There are probably a fair number of cars which few people would be happy to drive aggressively on a real road - as opposed to on an airfield with huge run offs - with all the driver aids turned off.

TheAngryDog

13,266 posts

239 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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How did we cope in the 80's and early 90's without traction control etc? I never wrote my 300 plus bhp Cossie off or crashed it, and that was rwd with semi trailing arms and 20 pounds of boost from a hybrid T34 turbo! And I was 21/22 at the time!

I want another biggrin

so called

9,160 posts

239 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Best driving aids my Tuscan's got are a steering wheel, throttle and brakes. smile

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

248 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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I assume the OP is looking for something like a Eurofighter, which IIRC is inherently unstable and will pretty much drop out the sky if it weren't for the fly-by-wire system making continuous adjustments to keep it stable.

For which, I think the answer is none...

TheAngryDog

13,266 posts

239 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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MarkRSi said:
I assume the OP is looking for something like a Eurofighter, which IIRC is inherently unstable and will pretty much drop out the sky if it weren't for the fly-by-wire system making continuous adjustments to keep it stable.

For which, I think the answer is none...
Well, he is 12 years old after all.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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paranoid airbag said:
Obvious car is obvious:


Debaser

8,560 posts

291 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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None

Daston

6,154 posts

233 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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When the Tuscan was up for sale I was seriously thinking about a Z4M Roadster, so popped on the owners forum to ask a few questions.

One of my questions was regarding turning the driver aids off, I was met by a series of "oh god your going to die" and lots of pictures of cars in trees etc etc.

I did point out that I had come from a 390bhp TVR with no driver aids at all and am still very much alive after 4 years of ownership but apparently you might as well shoot yourself than turn the driver aids off in a Z4...

WCZ

11,556 posts

224 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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ZNSsupercars said:
I vote 458 Speciale

have you driven one?