RE: Swivelling Headlamps Soon

RE: Swivelling Headlamps Soon

Wednesday 31st July 2002

Swivelling Headlamps Soon


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cycle-rick

Original Poster:

18 posts

278 months

Wednesday 31st July 2002
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Finally! Only 55 years after Tucker did it. The pace of innovation in the auto world is astounding...

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

281 months

Wednesday 31st July 2002
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Just like the citroen DS then

MajorClanger

749 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st July 2002
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Sounds great for negotiating all those 'S' bends!

MC

plotloss

67,280 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st July 2002
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Audi had them on their Avantissimo concept car earlier in the year. Not sure if they made it on to the new A8 in time though.

Matt.

craigalsop

1,991 posts

281 months

Wednesday 31st July 2002
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A lot of Japanese cars have em in Japan - I've seen them on grey import Legacys and MR2 Turbos....

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

281 months

Wednesday 31st July 2002
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Sounds great for negotiating all those 'S' bends!

MC



Untill you get it in opposite lock and cant see where your going

TJMurphy

239 posts

276 months

Wednesday 31st July 2002
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Volvo's SCC concept car (ie it doesn't exist yet) has headlamps apparently linked to the GPS system. On a long straight the beam lenghtens, on slower roads it widens. Apparently can even be set to lenghten / widen for bends in the road. Can't remember if it's linked to speed as well.
As others already pointed out, swivelling headlamps aren't exactly new. The Volvo system is at least innovative (blue sky possibly but innovative). I'm guessing it can't cope with cars going sideways though

Mind you, if my Geodesy is typical, it always puts me slightly askew of reality, which would be a bit more of a problem with the lights pointing the wrong way.

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

289 months

Wednesday 31st July 2002
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I had a Renault 14 that did it but it was the effect of rust.

stevenrt

141 posts

283 months

Thursday 1st August 2002
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Take a bow, Preston Tucker.

Unfortunately, swivelling headlights are illegal in the US and UK, I believe, they are against road regulations.

The opposite lock scenario is something I didn't think of! You would have to tie the headlight system up to dynamic stability control-like yaw sensors!! Good one!

Graham

16,373 posts

297 months

Thursday 1st August 2002
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But in theory if you were on opposite lock the front wheels would be pointing closer to the direction of travel than the front of the car..


I.e as i slipped into the tyres at croft on sunday the front wheels were pointing down the straight and the front of the car was pointing across the track....

a perfect slide, unfortunetly i ran out of road....

Pete_W

646 posts

276 months

Thursday 1st August 2002
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-so what happens when they seize up at night pointing in the wrong direction

Nevin

2,999 posts

274 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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Probably the same thing as if your lights fail just now. You can't see anything.

Why would people be using opposite lock on the ppublic highways at night anyway???? Hmmm.

Toffer

1,528 posts

274 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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Perhaps you could train them to look at girls on hot sunny days

...they would just have to follow the driver's head

Whoops, big "sorry!" to the lady drivers

hut49

3,544 posts

275 months

Saturday 3rd August 2002
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No reason at all why the direction of the lights couldn't be controlled by eyeball motion sensors so that they would always be pointing in the direction you were looking, whatever 'lock' your wheels were on

Hutch

hut49

3,544 posts

275 months

Saturday 3rd August 2002
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Just like the citroen DS then



Wasn't it the Citroen SM that had the swivellers?

Hutch

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

289 months

Saturday 3rd August 2002
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And certain DS models.

The DS mechanism relied upon links with nylon ball joints, the balls became slack with use (I know the feeling) and would pop out of their sockets leaving the second light to wave about in the wind. It was a good job that one light on each side was fixed otherwise on one notable occassion I would have contributed to a Pallas sized hole in the hedgerows of Anglesey.

I didn't think the complexity warrented the results and I feel that modern reflector design can give the same illumination with fixed lights, others may think differently.

>> Edited by gnomesmith on Saturday 3rd August 15:34

FourWheelDrift

90,670 posts

297 months

Saturday 3rd August 2002
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Just like the citroen DS then



Wasn't it the Citroen SM that had the swivellers?

Hutch



Both did, although the DS ones were optional I believe.