Nearly new more expensive than brand new?

[ED209]

Been having a browse of the audi/vw/bmw sites recently looking at nearly new cars. One thing that strikes me is that the nearly new cars advertised by main dealers seem to be as expensive if not more expensive than new models through brokers etc.Why is this?

Is it the case that the advertised price is a lot higher than the negotiable price on these nearly new models? or are people just daft enough to buy them?

What sort of haggling room is there in a nearly new main dealer car priced at say 25-27k?

[TheDoggingFather]

I think a lot of it is down to a lot of people still aren't aware of the deals offered by brokers and literally just go with what they see on the forecourt. I suppose it also depends what options boxes have been ticked.

[romeogolf]

From my experience finance packages are more favourable to new cars than nearly-new so unless you're paying cash, there's no real incentive to go 'nearly new'.

Also, the "nearly-new" car advertised on the website will likely have a number of options added to it. Metallic paint, SatNav, electronic gizmos etc. The broker will have a basic model, hence the price difference.

Edited by romeogolf on Tuesday 16th December 14:33

[datum77]

ED209,

Why oh why is your vision so narrow as to only look at German overpriced, averagely engineered, overhyped, overrated, overplaticised, badge engineered, same as everyone else, cars.

Widen your horizons, Sir, there is a far better choice out there if you can learn to stop being a sheep.

[Spooge]

Sometimes people would rather have it now, than wait for it to be built, shipped etc.

I remember my Dad selling his mk5 GTI (or was it a mk6) for near enough the figure he bought it for, they couldn't build them quick enough.

[ED209]

datum77 said:

ED209,

Why oh why is your vision so narrow as to only look at German overpriced, averagely engineered, overhyped, overrated, overplaticised, badge engineered, same as everyone else, cars.

Widen your horizons, Sir, there is a far better choice out there if you can learn to stop being a sheep.

I was only looking about to fill in some time.

of course I always follow the sheep into the german cars you mention above, thats why I drive a skoda!

[silentbrown]

ED209 said:

Is it the case that the advertised price is a lot higher than the negotiable price on these nearly new models? or are people just daft enough to buy them?

What sort of haggling room is there in a nearly new main dealer car priced at say 25-27k?

a :Yes to both. Also, many "nearly new" cars will have several K of options that bump up the list price. By the time you've added satnav, leather and metallic paint that can be 3-4K over list.

b: Depends on the car, the brand, the model, etc. Some dealers seem to price more aggressively than others. But we were able to get around 3K off the asking price on a 6-month old S3 recently, if that's any help.

[AGK]

Some people can't wait a few months for a factory order so just stump up the full price.

[Dave Hedgehog]

AGK said:

Some people can't wait a few months for a factory order so just stump up the full price.

In my experience dealers will lend you a car for a few months if it means they get the sale, subaru lent me a p/x'd rav4 for 3 months whilst we waited for my type uk to arrive

[CYMR0]

Some people also believe that 'used cars are cheaper than new' is a law of physics, not a general guideline.

[ChasW]

If they are nearly new then they could be ex-management cars which can be well specced. I bought my wife a 6 month Audi with options that would have added £6k to the price new which would make it look pricey compared to a new base level spec car.

[blueg33]

romeogolf said:

From my experience finance packages are more favourable to new cars than nearly-new so unless you're paying cash, there's no real incentive to go 'nearly new'.

Also, the "nearly-new" car advertised on the website will likely have a number of options added to it. Metallic paint, SatNav, electronic gizmos etc. The broker will have a basic model, hence the price difference.

Edited by romeogolf on Tuesday 16th December 14:33

Not sure that this is correct. When I ordered my A6 the broker could give me any spec I wanted as it would be a factory order car. I had loads of options. The broker was miles cheaper than the dealer, but the dealer matched the brokers price.

I drove the new car away having paid less than nearly new ones on the forecourt.

[Monkeylegend]

datum77 said:

ED209,

Why oh why is your vision so narrow as to only look at German overpriced, averagely engineered, overhyped, overrated, overplaticised, badge engineered, same as everyone else, cars.

Widen your horizons, Sir, there is a far better choice out there if you can learn to stop being a sheep.

Yeah, makes you wonder why so many people buy German cars.

[anonymous-user]

datum77 said:

ED209,

Why oh why is your vision so narrow as to only look at German overpriced, averagely engineered, overhyped, overrated, overplaticised, badge engineered, same as everyone else, cars.

Widen your horizons, Sir, there is a far better choice out there if you can learn to stop being a sheep.

German cars aren't overrated.
Overpriced..probably?

It's his choice anyway.
What do you drive?

[LordHaveMurci]

AGK said:

Some people can't wait a few months for a factory order so just stump up the full price.

When I bought my classic scooby back in the day, I wasn't prepared to wait months for a new one so bought a nearly new one at near the same money. Enjoyed those extra few months with it though

[Ozzie Osmond]

Spooge said:

Sometimes people would rather have it now, than wait for it to be built, shipped etc.

Yes, it's as simple as that.

On the other hand, if you visit the dealership to discuss specifications for an order at fairly basic specification it's worth asking at the end of the discussion "what cars they've got in the dealer network". Sometimes you can get a decent price on metal which the manufacturer just wants to keep moving through the system. This is a particularly effective way of getting hold of additional options without paying for them!!