Who is Making the Money ?
Discussion
Spoke to my accountant the other day and I ask him the same question every year (as he should know) who is making all the money "Undertakers and Farmers he says" ! how hard is it to set up an undertakers ? or what other low cost profitable businesses ideas are out there. Any undertakers on board?
To become an undertaker you'll need to go to university and get the right qualifications, or employ somebody who has. Then you'll need proper equipment, premises, vehicles and accreditations. It's not a low cost startup.
I imagine the farmers who are making big money, are the ones who inherited their farms.
There is no such thing as an easy way to making money, they all either involve huge amounts of work, or large amounts of investment and/or risk.
I imagine the farmers who are making big money, are the ones who inherited their farms.
There is no such thing as an easy way to making money, they all either involve huge amounts of work, or large amounts of investment and/or risk.
Inkyfingers said:
To become an undertaker you'll need to go to university and get the right qualifications, or employ somebody who has.
No you don't. My father was and my brother is, neither of them (or any employees) have any particular qualifications or went to Uni.They do make good money though and it's obviously recession proof and indeed a growing industry(?) as the population increases.
Personally I was never too happy to be turfed out of my bed at 3am in the middle of Winter to pick up a corpse though.
GEWAGON said:
Jasandjules said:
Farmers aren't. Landowners maybe, but not farmers
They do get handsome subsidiaries !? He's not in a good place and hasn't been for some time.
HoHoHo said:
The farmer across the road from us mentioned last week that it costs him 3p per ltr of milk currently to produce and supply. He produces many thousands of ltrs per annum.
He's not in a good place and hasn't been for some time.
BUT He's not in a good place and hasn't been for some time.
to keep going at that sort of a loss there has to be something to leverage or subsidise. Land prices are silly high now...
As for the undertakers making the money - yes there is an huge amount of cash to be had in that trade but it isn't something that would suit many people and when you dig into the reality of it all you realise that there are people already in place who are as ethical as an African Dictator. The Co-op are one of the biggest players and have spent many years trying to destroy the opposition they come across in a very unCo-op manner.
Evoluzione said:
Inkyfingers said:
To become an undertaker you'll need to go to university and get the right qualifications, or employ somebody who has.
No you don't. My father was and my brother is, neither of them (or any employees) have any particular qualifications or went to Uni.They do make good money though and it's obviously recession proof and indeed a growing industry(?) as the population increases.
Personally I was never too happy to be turfed out of my bed at 3am in the middle of Winter to pick up a corpse though.
Hoofy said:
Evoluzione said:
Inkyfingers said:
To become an undertaker you'll need to go to university and get the right qualifications, or employ somebody who has.
No you don't. My father was and my brother is, neither of them (or any employees) have any particular qualifications or went to Uni.They do make good money though and it's obviously recession proof and indeed a growing industry(?) as the population increases.
Personally I was never too happy to be turfed out of my bed at 3am in the middle of Winter to pick up a corpse though.

R8VXF said:
Hoofy said:
Evoluzione said:
Inkyfingers said:
To become an undertaker you'll need to go to university and get the right qualifications, or employ somebody who has.
No you don't. My father was and my brother is, neither of them (or any employees) have any particular qualifications or went to Uni.They do make good money though and it's obviously recession proof and indeed a growing industry(?) as the population increases.
Personally I was never too happy to be turfed out of my bed at 3am in the middle of Winter to pick up a corpse though.

HoHoHo said:
The farmer across the road from us mentioned last week that it costs him 3p per ltr of milk currently to produce and supply. He produces many thousands of ltrs per annum.
He's not in a good place and hasn't been for some time.
If that were true then why would any farmer produce milk at all? they must be making money somewhere. I just don't buy it that all farmers are poor and there is no money in it yet every farmer you speak to says the same. He's not in a good place and hasn't been for some time.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Bes thing to do as a farmer is get some silly bugger to build a few wind turbines on your land.
The rent paid is astronomical.
No the best thing to do is have some of your land re-zoned in the parish plan and then get planning for 500 houses on it as a friend has just done, he didn't want to sell the land originally as it's been family owned for generations but when people pointed out he could buy 10x as much land and still have cash left over he changed his mind The rent paid is astronomical.

Farming is an interesting business.
It completely depends on the ownership of the land - a lot of farms are owned by wealthy individuals in the first place due to the inheritance tax allowances being far more generous for agricultural land.
Hence, if you are wealthy and own a farm, you will make money from it due to the lack of rent, subsidies paid to you etc.
If you rent the land - you will struggle to breakeven and will also work some pretty ridiculous hours. Farming is not a job, it is a life!
It completely depends on the ownership of the land - a lot of farms are owned by wealthy individuals in the first place due to the inheritance tax allowances being far more generous for agricultural land.
Hence, if you are wealthy and own a farm, you will make money from it due to the lack of rent, subsidies paid to you etc.
If you rent the land - you will struggle to breakeven and will also work some pretty ridiculous hours. Farming is not a job, it is a life!
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Silent1 said:
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Bes thing to do as a farmer is get some silly bugger to build a few wind turbines on your land.
The rent paid is astronomical.
No the best thing to do is have some of your land re-zoned in the parish plan and then get planning for 500 houses on it as a friend has just done, he didn't want to sell the land originally as it's been family owned for generations but when people pointed out he could buy 10x as much land and still have cash left over he changed his mind The rent paid is astronomical.

My old man works for a German wind turbine company and oversees the connection of the turbines to the national grid... I haven't got exact figures out of him, but I do know for a reasonable sized farm on private land (perhaps in the order of 10-20 turbines) the rent paid to the landowner is in the order of 6 figures PA!
Whereas wind farms are easier in that respect but the local opposition is almost always massive and well informed, another friend has just had his third attempt at 6 wind turbines refused almost exclusively based on local reaction, prior to this he was well known and liked, now he doesn't go to the local pub any more for fear of a lynching.
BoRED S2upid said:
HoHoHo said:
The farmer across the road from us mentioned last week that it costs him 3p per ltr of milk currently to produce and supply. He produces many thousands of ltrs per annum.
He's not in a good place and hasn't been for some time.
If that were true then why would any farmer produce milk at all? they must be making money somewhere. I just don't buy it that all farmers are poor and there is no money in it yet every farmer you speak to says the same. He's not in a good place and hasn't been for some time.
He really doesn't know what to do because he has nothing else he can do and he's losing money daily.
There will come a point where he simply can't go on.
BoRED S2upid said:
If that were true then why would any farmer produce milk at all? they must be making money somewhere. I just don't buy it that all farmers are poor and there is no money in it yet every farmer you speak to says the same.
Because he has a load of cows and they don't do much else apart from make milk? I guess it's lose 3p for a while or have no contract to sell milk and a load of cows wandering around doing nothing.
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