UK's most expensive ferry crossing per mile?
UK's most expensive ferry crossing per mile?
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Huntsman

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9,310 posts

279 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Per discussion on another thread.

The Hamble to Warsash Ferry is £1 and about 0.1 of a mile, so £10 per mile.

Red Funnel Southampton to Cowes is about 9 miles and foot passenger is about £12, so £1.33 per mile.

King Harry ferry is 300m for a fiver! 16p a metre or £257 per mile! (car or foot passenger?)

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Bridges aren't always cheap either. Last time I went to Wales the Severn bridge as £7 and all there was on the other side was... Wales. Free to get out though.

Huntsman

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9,310 posts

279 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Simpo Two said:
Bridges aren't always cheap either. Last time I went to Wales the Severn bridge as £7 and all there was on the other side was... Wales. Free to get out though.
Bridges? Wrong thread old boy.

Glenelg Ferry is I think about 300mtrs and a car is £15, so thats, er, umm, about £50 per mile for a car.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Reedham Ferry, Ferry

£4 one way. I can spit that far with a good pre hawk!

http://www.reedhamferry.co.uk/chain-ferry.html

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Rude-boy said:
Reedham Ferry, Ferry

£4 one way. I can spit that far with a good pre hawk!

http://www.reedhamferry.co.uk/chain-ferry.html
Sandbanks chain ferry is £3.50 and about a 150m crossing (so similar) about £40 per mile if my calcs are right.

maffski

1,905 posts

188 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Bryan Ferry is 40 quid+, and you don't go anywhere.

trashbat

6,298 posts

182 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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The West/East Cowes crossing is about 400ft (0.08mi) and costs £2.20 in a car, thus £27.50 a mile.

rs1952

5,247 posts

288 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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It's an interesting way of looking at it, but of course the costs involved for the fuel are only a miniscule proportion of the total costs to the companies of providing the service.

As an example, Red Funnel at Southampton have at least three ferries in service (and they don't come cheap per unit) plus staff to operate them; terminal facilities and the staff to operate them; the local councils wanting business rates etc. The fuel costs for operating the ferry per mile are peanuts compared to the other costs of running the business.

And no I've not got shares in Red Funnel, I've just used them 10-15 times in the last two years smile

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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The Corran Ferry near Fort William is 0.2Nm according to Navionics, the fee for a car is £7.90 so £39.50 per nautical mile.

hidetheelephants

35,704 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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The Western Ferry from Gourock to Dunoon was supposed to have this title, some academic wrote a few letters and a newspaper article about it. I think his name was Prof Neil Kay.

Stevanos

700 posts

166 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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Bosham to Itchenor ferry also known as Itchybosom which at low tide is £2.00 for a crossing of about 100 metres!

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

311 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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Is this the annual "point people to an explanation of supply and demand" thread, or am I too early? whistleparty

jjones

4,488 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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Stratford Upon Avon Ferry is 50p for 40 meters which is £20.11 per mile redface

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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mattdaniels said:
Is this the annual "point people to an explanation of supply and demand" thread, or am I too early? whistleparty
Not sure are the ferry prices above fixed unlike the only ferry to the isle of man (steam packet) which is a monopoly which raises prices approx two weeks prior, during and after the TT races? ?

rs1952

5,247 posts

288 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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speedyguy said:
mattdaniels said:
Is this the annual "point people to an explanation of supply and demand" thread, or am I too early? whistleparty
Not sure are the ferry prices above fixed unlike the only ferry to the isle of man (steam packet) which is a monopoly which raises prices approx two weeks prior, during and after the TT races? ?
Some will be fixed (an example that springs to mind is Sandbanks to Shell Bay, the "short cut" between Poole/ Bournemouth and Swanage) but others will be subject to supply and demand fluctuations. The cost of a trip by Red Funnel between Southampton and Cowes varies depending on what day you want to go and at what time (especially during the summer) and of course the same applies to the Cross-Channel and Irish Sea ferries.

As regards the IOM, it is fairly clear to anybody that demand will increase when the TT races are on so the ferry companies will adjust their prices accordingly. Of course, if they get too greedy a point would come where it would be cheaper to fly to Ronaldsway and hire something to get around when you get there.

On a not too distantly related issue, there are certain pubs in Bath that have "special" prices that they apply when there is a big rugby fixture on.

Jam Spavlin

909 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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Heysham to Douglas return car crossing with one adult during TT week £351 so....

66.4 miles x 2 = 132.8

351 ÷ 132.8 = £2.64 per mile.

they probably make the majority of their total income in those 6 weeks so it is possibly justified.

rs1952

5,247 posts

288 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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Jam Spavlin said:
Heysham to Douglas return car crossing with one adult during TT week £351 so....

66.4 miles x 2 = 132.8

351 ÷ 132.8 = £2.64 per mile.

they probably make the majority of their total income in those 6 weeks so it is possibly justified.
I did 3 trips to the IOM (admittedly not in the TT peak) in July, September and October this year, by air from Gloucester with an outfit called Citywing, who also fly from Newcastle and Glasgow and a few other places, which all cost in the region of £180 (give or take a tenner).

It may well be that flying and then hiring a runabout (on two or four wheels) when over there might easily be a cheaper option.

Kneetrembler

2,069 posts

231 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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I am a Caulkhead and hope the day never comes that we ever have a bridge constructed to connect the South Island with the North Island which is what some DFL's would like and also a few overners !

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Kneetrembler said:
I am a Caulkhead and hope the day never comes that we ever have a bridge constructed to connect the South Island with the North Island which is what some DFL's would like and also a few overners !
If you would clarify the abbreviations and slang, your post would make sense to 95% of the people on here. Thanks.

FiF

48,652 posts

280 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Don't you hate people that think they're smart like that.

Caulkhead = Native of the Isle of Wight
overners = people not native to Isle of Wight.
DFL = Down From London