Advice on new Cayenne

[RBrown]

Hi. After a number of years driving Mercedes MLs, I am thinking of a new Cayenne diesel.

Does anybody have any views of the Cayenne diesel and how it is for day to day running. I have two young kids, so more of a kiddy carrier!

Also keen to hear what options people would recommend. Mainly in terms of suspension upgrades, which wheels and whether PCM is worth it.

Many thanks for any advice.

[911wise]

RBrown said:

Hi. After a number of years driving Mercedes MLs, I am thinking of a new Cayenne diesel.

Does anybody have any views of the Cayenne diesel and how it is for day to day running. I have two young kids, so more of a kiddy carrier!

Also keen to hear what options people would recommend. Mainly in terms of suspension upgrades, which wheels and whether PCM is worth it.

Many thanks for any advice.

PCM probably not worth it, but you'll have a job selling it on without.

Adjustable air suspension nice option gives a smoother ride over crappy roads. ride height only a concern if you're doing a lot of towing or off-roading.

As far as wheels go I prefer 19" so you get some profile width. Bigger wheels tend to look the part but the lower the profile the more harsh the ride becomes, risk of kirbing. Not to mention the bigger the wheel the more useless they become in the snow/mud.

[gred]

Great car IMO, my fourth is waiting at the OPC for pick up next week. Slightly disagree with the previous post, definitely go for the panoramic roof, and the 21 " wheels are susceptible to kerbing. The 20" sport technos on my current 40k miler are unmarked so I've gone for them again. Always have Bose as well, and the DAB makes the car future proof if they ever get round to dropping FM.

[RBrown]

All, many thanks for taking the time to provide all the advice; it's much appreciated.

Now just need to soften my wife up before I tell her the cost of the options......

[Koln-RS]

The Cayenne is the market leader. New RR Sport runs it close, but the Cayenne beats it on build and engineering quality, and probably running costs.

Unfortunately, you will need to tick quite a lot of boxes on the Options List to optimise the Cayenne - some of which will be expected at re-sale. However, quite a lot are personal tastes/preferences

I've driven several of the 'new' (post 2011) models and the Air Suspension and PASM is a nice option to have, especially with bigger wheels. However, I recently drove a 2015 'facelift' model on 20" + 'all season' tyres, and thought the ride/handling balance were a very good.

[Helicopter123]

2015 model brings some useful upgrades.

We have two young kids (3.6) and are about to get out of a Macan and back into a Cayenne.

PCM a must if only for resale (you will get all of your cash back on it)

Bigger wheels also important, so at least 20"

As a family hack, rather than a style statement, I can speak positively about the rear window blinds which are switch operated from the front - helps keep the sun out of little eyes.

Heated seats important.

Our first (a 2012) was bullet proof over 20k miles, 100% reliable with an industructable interior and huge boot,

[trippletrouble]

Helicopter123 said:

2015 model brings some useful upgrades.

We have two young kids (3.6) and are about to get out of a Macan and back into a Cayenne.

PCM a must if only for resale (you will get all of your cash back on it)

Bigger wheels also important, so at least 20"

As a family hack, rather than a style statement, I can speak positively about the rear window blinds which are switch operated from the front - helps keep the sun out of little eyes.

Heated seats important.

Our first (a 2012) was bullet proof over 20k miles, 100% reliable with an industructable interior and huge boot,

If you don't mind me asking, what's the reason for the swap back to Cayenne from a Macan? Did the Macan not deliver fully or are residuals on the Macan so strong that it makes the switch back sensible?

[Kananga]

Helicopter123 said:

2015 model brings some useful upgrades.

Is that in terms of engine or spec ?

[Helicopter123]

trippletrouble said:

Helicopter123 said:

2015 model brings some useful upgrades.

We have two young kids (3.6) and are about to get out of a Macan and back into a Cayenne.

PCM a must if only for resale (you will get all of your cash back on it)

Bigger wheels also important, so at least 20"

As a family hack, rather than a style statement, I can speak positively about the rear window blinds which are switch operated from the front - helps keep the sun out of little eyes.

Heated seats important.

Our first (a 2012) was bullet proof over 20k miles, 100% reliable with an industructable interior and huge boot,

If you don't mind me asking, what's the reason for the swap back to Cayenne from a Macan? Did the Macan not deliver fully or are residuals on the Macan so strong that it makes the switch back sensible?

The Macan is an incredible car, that even in diesel form (the one we have) feels and drives more like a sports car than an SUV, yet is still very refined to drive. Sadly, having been used to the size of the Cayenne, the Macan does feel smaller. I guess if you are coming from a Q5 for example, then no concerns. It's really just down to size. The residual does help - come exchange time, we've been offered only c. £2k under list @ 8k miles. Could probably get more selling private but we have finance.

[Helicopter123]

Kananga said:

Helicopter123 said:

2015 model brings some useful upgrades.

Is that in terms of engine or spec ?

The changes to engine and suspension add up to more than the sum of the parts - drive now more fluid, much more Macan like, and yet feels even more comfortable. The new steering wheel a huge bonus as well.

[Kananga]

Thanks for the info.

We want to swap our X6 50d and just debating whether to buy new. Used prices seem v strong, so maybe best to just buy a new one.

[911wise]

Kananga said:

Thanks for the info.

We want to swap our X6 50d and just debating whether to buy new. Used prices seem v strong, so maybe best to just buy a new one.

2 year warranty on used from Opc same as new.

[Kananga]

911wise said:

2 year warranty on used from Opc same as new.

Thanks - I saw that the 3rd year warranty was an option.

I wish we'd bought a cayenne in the first place, given how strong residuals are. unless I could save c.35%+ for buying 1 or 2 years old, I think I'd rather just buy new. May seem silly but just figure better have new unless saving a decent wedge.

[911wise]

Kananga said:

Thanks - I saw that the 3rd year warranty was an option.

I wish we'd bought a cayenne in the first place, given how strong residuals are. unless I could save c.35%+ for buying 1 or 2 years old, I think I'd rather just buy new. May seem silly but just figure better have new unless saving a decent wedge.

You're probably right. It's just the 5-6 month wait.

[trippletrouble]

Helicopter123 said:

The Macan is an incredible car, that even in diesel form (the one we have) feels and drives more like a sports car than an SUV, yet is still very refined to drive. Sadly, having been used to the size of the Cayenne, the Macan does feel smaller. I guess if you are coming from a Q5 for example, then no concerns. It's really just down to size. The residual does help - come exchange time, we've been offered only c. £2k under list @ 8k miles. Could probably get more selling private but we have finance.

Makes sense to change then with that kind of trade in. Wife and I were looking at the Macan first of all but now feel the Cayenne would be a better bet due to the extra size.

[APOLO1]

Forgot a few things on mine, 4 zone A/C, heated front screen, matt black roof rails, and LEDs, yes LEDs, after having them on both my TTS, would not have another high end Porsche without them...

[APOLO1]

Koln-RS said:

The Cayenne is the market leader. New RR Sport runs it close, but the Cayenne beats it on build and engineering quality, and probably running costs.

Unfortunately, you will need to tick quite a lot of boxes on the Options List to optimise the Cayenne - some of which will be expected at re-sale. However, quite a lot are personal tastes/preferences

I've driven several of the 'new' (post 2011) models and the Air Suspension and PASM is a nice option to have, especially with bigger wheels. However, I recently drove a 2015 'facelift' model on 20" + 'all season' tyres, and thought the ride/handling balance were a very good.

Imv the RR Sport wins hands down in the looks department, but that's it, in every other area, the 4.2DS Cayenne completely knocks the RRS into another universe..

[Callughan]

APOLO1 said:

Koln-RS said:

The Cayenne is the market leader. New RR Sport runs it close, but the Cayenne beats it on build and engineering quality, and probably running costs.

Unfortunately, you will need to tick quite a lot of boxes on the Options List to optimise the Cayenne - some of which will be expected at re-sale. However, quite a lot are personal tastes/preferences

I've driven several of the 'new' (post 2011) models and the Air Suspension and PASM is a nice option to have, especially with bigger wheels. However, I recently drove a 2015 'facelift' model on 20" + 'all season' tyres, and thought the ride/handling balance were a very good.

Imv the RR Sport wins hands down in the looks department, but that's it, in every other area, the 4.2DS Cayenne completely knocks the RRS into another universe..

Plus the OPC service network knock the socks off what LR offers.(well my experience so far with LR)

[Robbo66]

APOLO1 said:

Imv the RR Sport wins hands down in the looks department, but that's it, in every other area, the 4.2DS Cayenne completely knocks the RRS into another universe..

Not in my view. It's gopping...and then there's the image.

That 850nm whilst burbling through traffic on a rainy January evening is a must IMV .

Some like Jody Marsh, some Catherine Deneuve....I'm off for another croissant.....Shall I pick you up a Crispy Creme .

[BlackGT3]

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You're probably right. It's just the 5-6 month wait.

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I don't believe this is the case for the 3.0 diesel models. A friend walked into JCT at the beginning of Nov. They had three build slots available to customers specification for delivery this week.