Help! Job termination advice.
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Dilligaf10

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2,431 posts

239 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Need a quick bit of advice please:

21 year old daughter started work in a hotel with her boyfriend. Boyfriend has just dumped her so she is coming home as she can't stay as they share a room for accommodation.

She has already worked four weeks with two weeks paid in arrears. Her boss says, a) he won't pay her for work already worked, and b), he says that if she leaves he will sack her ex- boyfriend.

I am going to collect her tomorrow morning and I just want a bit of ammo just in case.

edc

9,626 posts

280 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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What is the advice you are looking for? Is she going to work her notice or will she have worked it by the time she leaves?

It's a crap situation to be in but if the job provides accommodation then perhaps change room.

truck71

2,328 posts

201 months

Sunday 28th December 2014
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Employer can't withhold wages for work completed regardless of notice periods etc- tribunal is the vehicle to resolve if employer withholds pay.

Ex boyfriends situation isn't one you can influence.

Dilligaf10

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2,431 posts

239 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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Thanks Guys.

There was no other accommodation available so she had no choice but come home. The boss has still withheld wages owing so registered letter on the way asking for monies to be paid forthwith.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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A striking reminder of what life is like in the low pay sector, where employers often act as though beyond the reach of the law. The Coalition has made it expensive to seek redress at a tribunal, so employers can sometimes get away with this sort of thing; but for a simple claim for unpaid wages it is cheaper to sue via Money Claim Online and avoid the tribunal fees. Unpaid wages can be claimed either under the statutory regime or by way of a common law claim for debt/breach of contract. In this case the common law route may be the quicker and cheaper route if the employer does not play ball.

In addition, HMRC may be interested in the accommodation arrangement if it is offered by the employer and is tied in to wages. HMRC wear a rare white hat in their role as the enforcement agency of minimum wage rules. These rules extend to controls on accommodation offsets (when employers try to pay less because they provide accommodation, and try to tie workers into room and/or food/laundry deals). I did a Court of Appeal case on this a few years ago that led to a strong pro worker ruling, but still many employers try to subvert the law and exploit workers. Low pay workers typically have limited awareness of their rights, have limited access to advice (CABs mean well but are not much use and are mainly busy deciding who gets food vouchers, there are almost no more law centres, and legal aid is like unicorns these days), and are often not unionised. They are ripe for exploitation.

If your daughter continues to work in the hotel sector, I suggest that she joins a union, Unions still have value for people at the blunt end of the employment market.

OP, I really hate to hear of this kind of abusive behaviour by employers, so PM me if you want any further help pro bono.

Re the boyfriend, that is not your problem, but he too may be facing an injustice, so I mention that he might, just might have a claim that to dismiss him because of his relationship status is a form of unlawful discrimination.

fridgedoctor

220 posts

188 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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^ this delights me ^ what a terrific gesture! well played BV
(Not the daughters situation OP, which is horrible) Good luck.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

166 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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fridgedoctor said:
^ this delights me ^ what a terrific gesture! well played BV
(Not the daughters situation OP, which is horrible) Good luck.
yep he is one of the good ones

Wings

5,967 posts

244 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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citizensm1th said:
yep he is one of the good ones
+1