Driving with no MOT
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Exige77

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6,523 posts

222 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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My MOT ran out on 27th Dec.

Tried to get it MOT'd in early Dec but with various Biz trips i could not get a slot when I was here.

Its booked in for this Friday 2nd Jan.

My MOT guy informed me, as i have a booking i will get 14 days grace from MOT expiring and I can use the car during the next few days.

Not heard of this before.

Can anyone confirm ?

JM

3,170 posts

237 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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Sounds like complete rubbish.

You can only drive it to a pre-arranged MoT test.

(and away after a fail)

Red 4

10,744 posts

218 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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Exige77 said:
My MOT guy informed me, as i have a booking i will get 14 days grace from MOT expiring and I can use the car during the next few days.

Not heard of this before.

Can anyone confirm ?
Nonsense.

The only exemptions are driving to a pre-arranged MOT or driving somewhere to have the items the car failed on rectified

agtlaw

7,417 posts

237 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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Exemptions to 'using a vehicle without a MOT certificate'

(a) driving to a pre-booked MOT examination.

(b) driving away from an MOT examination.

(c) following refusal of a test certificate - driving by prior arrangement to a place where work is to be done to remedy the defects.

(d) following refusal of a test certificate - driving away from a place where work has been done to remedy the defects.

(e) towing the vehicle to a place where it is to be broken up.

See Regulation 6(2) of the The Motor Vehicles (Tests) Regulations 1981.

paintman

7,860 posts

221 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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Exige77 said:
My MOT guy informed me, as i have a booking i will get 14 days grace from MOT expiring and I can use the car during the next few days.
Utter nonsense.

And having organised an MOT appointment for a family member's car today within 10 minutes of being told that it needed one (Women! and it passed) I'm also calling foul that you weren't able to sort one out at the start of the month as you claim. I would however believe that you forgot it was due.......smile

Edited by paintman on Monday 29th December 19:49

Aviz

1,669 posts

200 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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£60 fixed penalty for no MOT if you want to risk it. My brother has just realised his mot ran out in June. Not heard a peep, and he spends plenty of time going through anpr cameras .

Oh.. And it doesn't always automatically invalidate your insurance. I've made a total loss claim against a car with no mot, and they just knocked £200 off the settlement.

Edited by Aviz on Monday 29th December 21:14

Ki3r

8,909 posts

190 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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Aviz said:
£60 fixed penalty for no MOT if you want to risk it. My brother has just realised his mot ran out in June. Not heard a peep, and he spends plenty of time going through anpr cameras .

Oh.. And it doesn't always automatically invalidate your insurance. I've made a total loss claim against a car with no mot, and they just knocked £200 off the settlement.

Edited by Aviz on Monday 29th December 21:14
£100 fine now.

sim72

4,998 posts

165 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Aviz said:
£60 fixed penalty for no MOT if you want to risk it. My brother has just realised his mot ran out in June. Not heard a peep, and he spends plenty of time going through anpr cameras .

Oh.. And it doesn't always automatically invalidate your insurance. I've made a total loss claim against a car with no mot, and they just knocked £200 off the settlement.
I do wonder about the ANPR thing. I bought my current car from a dealer a couple of years back and as per their sales spiel, it came with the full multipoint service and a full MOT. Now, yes, I should have checked the MOT certificate, but a year later it was coming up to the anniversary of buying it and so I booked it in for its MOT - only to find out it had run out three weeks beforehand (basically, the previous owner had MOT'd it just before it was chopped in, so they didn't bother running it through again for the sake of a month).

Thing is, for those three weeks I'd driven it every day through the Great Billing ANPR trap on the A45. With no consequences at all. Makes you wonder.


FurryExocet

3,011 posts

212 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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sim72 said:
I do wonder about the ANPR thing. I bought my current car from a dealer a couple of years back and as per their sales spiel, it came with the full multipoint service and a full MOT. Now, yes, I should have checked the MOT certificate, but a year later it was coming up to the anniversary of buying it and so I booked it in for its MOT - only to find out it had run out three weeks beforehand (basically, the previous owner had MOT'd it just before it was chopped in, so they didn't bother running it through again for the sake of a month).

Thing is, for those three weeks I'd driven it every day through the Great Billing ANPR trap on the A45. With no consequences at all. Makes you wonder.
Why does it make you wonder? ANPR requires that someone is there to stop you at the time and to be honest, there are far better alarms going through than a no MOT. If I stopped every no Tax, Keeper or MOT alarm, I'd never move!

Exige77

Original Poster:

6,523 posts

222 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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paintman said:
Exige77 said:
My MOT guy informed me, as i have a booking i will get 14 days grace from MOT expiring and I can use the car during the next few days.
Utter nonsense.

And having organised an MOT appointment for a family member's car today within 10 minutes of being told that it needed one (Women! and it passed) I'm also calling foul that you weren't able to sort one out at the start of the month as you claim. I would however believe that you forgot it was due.......smile

Edited by paintman on Monday 29th December 19:49
As mentioned, i had some overseas business trips at the start of the month and during the days i was here could not get an MOT appointment at a suitable time. There is no conspiracy.

Just checked with my MOT guy and he meant 2 weeks grace for RFL.

This runs out at the end of Dec and i need my MOT in order to get my non existent Tax Disc.

So all clear now.

Thanks for all replies.














Cat

3,134 posts

300 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Exige77 said:
As mentioned, i had some overseas business trips at the start of the month and during the days i was here could not get an MOT appointment at a suitable time. There is no conspiracy.

Just checked with my MOT guy and he meant 2 weeks grace for RFL.

This runs out at the end of Dec and i need my MOT in order to get my non existent Tax Disc.

So all clear now.

Thanks for all replies.
Your MOT man is still giving you duff info. The 14 day grace period applied the only to offence of failing to displaying a tax disc, not keeping/using an untaxed vehicle on a public road. It also required an application to have been received by DVLA prior to the expiry of the previous tax/SORN.

As there is no longer a requirement to display a tax disc the grace period is no more.

Cat

Exige77

Original Poster:

6,523 posts

222 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Will be Taxed and MOT'd by Friday 17:00

Will there be any repercussions for not being taxed for a couple of days ?

N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

253 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Exige77 said:
Will be Taxed and MOT'd by Friday 17:00

Will there be any repercussions for not being taxed for a couple of days ?
It wouldn't surprise me if DVLA decided to try and fine you for failing to declare SORN for 2 days.

mygoldfishbowl

4,298 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Exige77 said:
Will be Taxed and MOT'd by Friday 17:00

Will there be any repercussions for not being taxed for a couple of days ?
None.

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Exige77 said:
Will be Taxed and MOT'd by Friday 17:00

Will there be any repercussions for not being taxed for a couple of days ?
No, none.

Speed Badger

3,744 posts

148 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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agtlaw said:
Exemptions to 'using a vehicle without a MOT certificate'

(a) driving to a pre-booked MOT examination.

(b) driving away from an MOT examination.

(c) following refusal of a test certificate - driving by prior arrangement to a place where work is to be done to remedy the defects.

(d) following refusal of a test certificate - driving away from a place where work has been done to remedy the defects.

(e) towing the vehicle to a place where it is to be broken up.

See Regulation 6(2) of the The Motor Vehicles (Tests) Regulations 1981.
So by letter of the law, if you are out of MOT and your car has failed, technically you are not allowed to drive it back home?

agtlaw

7,417 posts

237 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Speed Badger said:
So by letter of the law, if you are out of MOT and your car has failed, technically you are not allowed to drive it back home?
See (b) above.

The precise wording of that exemption:

"for the purpose of submitting it by previous arrangement for, or bringing it away from, an examination, or ... "