So I work with a cretin
So I work with a cretin
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wolfie1978

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459 posts

194 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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As the title really,

I start work at 5am and park in one of our staff car parks, about 6.30am a colleague comes over and informs me he's just witnessed a car reversing into my front bumper and then driving off to our other car park. Luckily he has clocked the number plate, so I go and inspect my car and the front bumper is now quite badly cracked. I locate the other car and it has matching fresh damage on the rear bumper. So I return to work and a call is put out over our tannoy system for the driver, colleague stomps over, denies all knowledge even after I told him the event was witnessed by a 3rd party. He's not been at work since so I don't know if he's changed his mind, to be honest i've grown more angry about this as times gone by. I've had to involve my insurance company and the witness is happy to provide info to them. Sadly this means my car will probably be written off, I don't suppose a 14 year old 5 series with 180k on it is worth a great deal any more. If he continues to deny it will my insurance be able to claim off his just on the word of my witness?

Magic919

14,566 posts

231 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Probably.

allergictocheese

1,290 posts

143 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Why involve insurance over a cracked bumper? I would have thought you'll be able to track one down at a scrappy for peanuts.

Your colleague sounds like a burk.

cirian75

5,775 posts

263 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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3rd party witness = win, and also call the plod, the offender drove away from the scene of an accident he was in.

aka_kerrly

12,506 posts

240 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Cretin appears to be generous, total utter **** springs to mind.

How people can stand there an argue that they are innocent/not prepared to accept responsibility when there is a witness plus damage on both cars is beyond me.

How well do you know the employee?

wolfie1978

Original Poster:

459 posts

194 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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allergictocheese said:
Why involve insurance over a cracked bumper? I would have thought you'll be able to track one down at a scrappy for peanuts.

Your colleague sounds like a burk.
Had he have put his hands up to it and looked to resolve the matter I wouldn't have but with the stance he took I felt I didn't have many options. I'm annoyed as I was planning to sell it in April for something bigger

wolfie1978

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459 posts

194 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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aka_kerrly said:
Cretin appears to be generous, total utter **** springs to mind.

How people can stand there an argue that they are innocent/not prepared to accept responsibility when there is a witness plus damage on both cars is beyond me.

How well do you know the employee?
Not that well, I know his name and now what car he drives

Timbola

1,956 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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A word with his manager, shirley, as this is in the carpark of a place of work.

I would certainly want to know if one of my employees had such little integrity and honesty as this. And it may well be that this is not the first black mark against him at work; could/should lead to disciplinary/suspension/the sack.

CraigyMc

18,371 posts

266 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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If that happened in certain workplaces*, the fact that cretin didn't own up would put a bit of a shadow over his/her future employment.

Do management know?

* = places where trust is required - eg. casinos where the floor employees all have gambling licenses and can lose them for various other apparently unrelated offences

CraigyMc

18,371 posts

266 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Timbola said:
A word with his manager, shirley, as this is in the carpark of a place of work.

I would certainly want to know if one of my employees had such little integrity and honesty as this. And it may well be that this is not the first black mark against him at work; could/should lead to disciplinary/suspension/the sack.
touché

Timbola

1,956 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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CraigyMc said:
touché
yes

agtlaw

7,415 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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cirian75 said:
3rd party witness = win, and also call the plod, the offender drove away from the scene of an accident he was in.
A company car park may not be a road or other public place. It depends.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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wolfie1978 said:
allergictocheese said:
Why involve insurance over a cracked bumper? I would have thought you'll be able to track one down at a scrappy for peanuts.

Your colleague sounds like a burk.
Had he have put his hands up to it and looked to resolve the matter I wouldn't have but with the stance he took I felt I didn't have many options.
Of course you do.

You can spend (quick look on eBay) <£100 of your own money on a used bumper, you can put some gaffer tape over the crack - or you can claim through insurance and risk them not getting anywhere, flagging it as an at-fault so hitting your NCB, writing the car off, and hitting your premium even if it does go against the other guy.

I know which of the three is the least appealing to me.

zcacogp

11,239 posts

274 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Having spent a good chunk of the last fortnight dealing with complete cretins, behaviour like this seems remarkably commonplace.

If you have a witness and the other party is as cretinous as they sound, insurance may be your only (and best) chance. And I'd certainly be having a chat with the cretin's line manager - the worst he can do is tell you do F off.


Oli.

wolfie1978

Original Poster:

459 posts

194 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Management don't appear interested. Other colleagues have given him quite a bit of stick over it but he appears to be of the "i don't care what people think of me" persuasion. Maybe calling my insurance co wasn't the cheapest solution for me but it's done now. My car is being collected on the 7th January so i'll go from there

Matt UK

18,084 posts

230 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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wolfie1978 said:
Management don't appear interested. Other colleagues have given him quite a bit of stick over it but he appears to be of the "i don't care what people think of me" persuasion. Maybe calling my insurance co wasn't the cheapest solution for me but it's done now. My car is being collected on the 7th January so i'll go from there
So inform the police as he left the scene of an accident.

wolfie1978

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459 posts

194 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Matt UK said:
So inform the police as he left the scene of an accident.
I've done that in the past under similar circumstances and they couldn't have been less interested

Magictrousers

268 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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6th of January, drive (forwards) into the side of his car.

Sorted.

Matt UK

18,084 posts

230 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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wolfie1978 said:
Matt UK said:
So inform the police as he left the scene of an accident.
I've done that in the past under similar circumstances and they couldn't have been less interested
It's not really them you want interest from though. Walk into his dept, make sure his manager and peers are present and explain that you have a witness and are about to call the police unless he gets involved.

n3il123

2,858 posts

243 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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10th January get the call that they have written it off.