Remapping Audis?
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Rusty1

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614 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Not posted in a while,

changed the astra yesterday for a nice a4 estate.
its got the 2ltr turbo diesel but has been de-tuned to get £30 a year road tax.

does anyone know or reccomend someone who can re-map it back to full tunedness?
I know its same engine as my neighbours a3 which puts out 170bhp but mines tuned down to 136bhp

Cheers

terenceb

1,488 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Had my A4 mapped at the dealers before I picked it up.Huntingdon Audi have a tame map specialist.My car was the 2:0ltr tdi-170 originally (new car) after mapping I put it onto the rolling road where I worked then, conservative reading came out at 194bhp flywheel reading! Rather rapid LeMans trip followed a few days later and criusing at 100mph gave 47mpg, this I thought was really nice smile It also became a much nicer car to drive, smoke increase was very slight btw. Go for it, youll not regret it.

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

162 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Rusty1 said:
Not posted in a while,

changed the astra yesterday for a nice a4 estate.
its got the 2ltr turbo diesel but has been de-tuned to get £30 a year road tax.

does anyone know or reccomend someone who can re-map it back to full tunedness?
I know its same engine as my neighbours a3 which puts out 170bhp but mines tuned down to 136bhp

Cheers
you say detuned but I'm guessing it's the standard 2.0 TDi 136 rather than a 170 that has in fact been detuned. I'm not so sure it is just a map on the 170 version, they may have different injectors, etc.

I worked for Audi a few years ago and have driven loads of A4's but don't actually know the answer to the above. 35bhp does seem like a big jump on just a map though, especially where the characteristics of the 136/143/170 2.0 TDi's are so similar. It's not like the 170 has a power band that is less broad than the lower powered units as you might expect to find on a more 'mapped' version.

Is it the B7 or the B8/B8.5 version?

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

162 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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I decided to do a google and depending on the model type you are looking at the 170 having better injectors and a bigger turbo. However, on some models there are tuners claiming to get a standard 2.0 TDi up to 170-175 on just a map.

6C4GTS

5,186 posts

205 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Ecotune in Hillington are an APR agent and there is a winter sale with 20% off maps:

http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tdi.ht...

Gets your 136 to 170 plus a considerable torque improvement.

Rusty1

Original Poster:

614 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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cheers guys,

not sure what b model it is, but its a 2011 model.

Rusty1

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614 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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just had a google and its showing as a b8 model

edit: on further googling
http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/my-a4-2-0-tdi...

Edited by Rusty1 on Tuesday 30th December 15:24

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

162 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Rusty1 said:
cheers guys,

not sure what b model it is, but its a 2011 model.
B8.

150bhp

908 posts

199 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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These guys done the remap on my Audi S4 2.7 Bi turbo and can't recommend them enough...
http://www.absoluteremap.co.uk/

The difference in performance is stunning, the car was no slouch before with 265 bhp but now up at 315 bhp and oodles of torque plus Steve and his Mrs are really sound.

750turbo

6,164 posts

251 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Rusty1 said:
... 2ltr turbo diesel but has been de-tuned to get £30 a year road tax.

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How does that work then?

Surely the VED depends on what is declared on the V5? Can that be changed?

Rusty1

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614 posts

217 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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750turbo said:
How does that work then?

Surely the VED depends on what is declared on the V5? Can that be changed?
It comes from audi set for the £30 tax bracket but all they did in production was detune the engine to give lower power and lower emissions.

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

162 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Rusty1 said:
It comes from audi set for the £30 tax bracket but all they did in production was detune the engine to give lower power and lower emissions.
The internals will be the same but I think the B8 170 has a different turbo and injectors. There's definitely something different as a map will give it about 200bhp. I shall google it when I have a mo

Mr Trophy

6,811 posts

230 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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I'd love to get the TT remapped, looked into it, but I'd lose my warranty on the car frown

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

162 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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ModernAndy said:
The internals will be the same but I think the B8 170 has a different turbo and injectors. There's definitely something different as a map will give it about 200bhp. I shall google it when I have a mo
the 143 and the 170 (couldn't find the 136) seem to have the same Borg Warner BV43 turbo as standard. I'm 95% sure the injectors are different as I couldn't find the 170 injectors online but the 143 has injectors that only fit the engine numbers associated with 143's.

Steven944

126 posts

249 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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SP Autobahn in Stirling are REVO dealers. I've been very happy with all the work Stuart has done on my cars over years:
http://www.spautobahn.com/


terenceb

1,488 posts

198 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Mr Trophy said:
I'd love to get the TT remapped, looked into it, but I'd lose my warranty on the car frown
Depends on who does the servicing, and if the map is traceable.Like I said, the dealer whom I bought my second A4 from s uggested the chip and rranged it to be done before I collected the car.Had 60k totally trouble free miles before selling it on to a member on here.

terenceb

1,488 posts

198 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Mr Trophy said:
I'd love to get the TT remapped, looked into it, but I'd lose my warranty on the car frown
Depends on who does the servicing, and if the map is traceable.Like I said, the dealer whom I bought my second A4 from s uggested the chip and rranged it to be done before I collected the car.Had 60k totally trouble free miles before selling it on to a member on here.

kmm

1,781 posts

207 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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Hi Adam, there are a lot of people who will do a re-map for you and when I was looking at getting by B5 rs4 done, I looked at a lot of tuners.

MRC have a great reputation on all the Audi forums, but for me a drive to Banbury and back just wasn't worth it. What happens if things weren't quite right or I did future mods, I'd have to drive back down there.

On Audi srs forum, a lot of people dismissed REVO, but a few things really stand out. You can buy the switch so that you can have switchable maps. One for optimum performance, standard power, anti-theft mode (even if they have your keys).
I know Stuart at SP Autobahn will take your car out on the road and live map it. He will adjust the fueling, timing etc to get your car running spot on.... he's very good.

I had a friend who was looking at getting his VW done and 2010 onwards the ecu's are locked. Revo were the only ones he could find who had managed to write software to overcome this. Mapping is done through your port as normal, where some were wanting to remove his ecu. 20% sale on just now too, but think it ends soon.

If you are worried about a warranty, then I don't think any map is invisible as your boost will be increased. Switching back to the standard map before any warranty work? Would this then show?.. I'm not sure. I do know that Revo do a lot of work with Porsche.

Good luck with what you decide to go for, but I know who I would recommend and who I will take my A3 tdi too very soon.

Rusty1

Original Poster:

614 posts

217 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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I'm not worried about warranty on mine,
even if it needs to bigger injectors, i'd be up for that to get the extra horses and torques!!

cheers for the input, i'll obviously do the research into all companies but i do like the idea of someone local so i can go back to them with any issues or future work.

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

162 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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Rusty1 said:
I'm not worried about warranty on mine,
even if it needs to bigger injectors, i'd be up for that to get the extra horses and torques!!

cheers for the input, i'll obviously do the research into all companies but i do like the idea of someone local so i can go back to them with any issues or future work.
I'm not sure if the injectors were a weak point as recently as the B8 models but they may actually be something that need addressed anyway at some point. It won't be a cheap job to upgrade and you may need to check the capabilities of the turbo on the 136. I'd imagine it's exactly the same one but I couldn't find it online to confirm.