Buying from a part time dealer
Buying from a part time dealer
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Onz

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507 posts

236 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Hi,

Have searched briefly ref. this topic but the results all seem to be about setting up as a part time dealer.

Looking at replacing my Golf and having found a couple of potential cars I'm interested in and phoned up the sellers both of them are part time dealers - only found this out when asking whether they held the full V5 and in their name. Both said that it is in their trading name. Wasn't something they tried to hide at all just came out in conversation. Adverts on Autotrader/eBay were listed as being sold privately.

After some advice where I stand on this. Presumably its no different from buying from a full time trader in that they should have completed the yellow section of the V5 (Section 9) with the person they bought it from?

Does a part time trader have to provide any form of warranty i.e. do I have any comeback if there are any issues with the car?

Thanks for any pointers/advice.

Matt


Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Part time or full time the same rules apply. i.e. Yellow slip and SOGA protection.

PositronicRay

29,048 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Krikkit said:
SOGA protection.
Don't rely on this too much, treat it as a private buy.

750turbo

6,164 posts

254 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Onz said:
... Presumably its no different from buying from a full time trader ...
Ask yourself why they do not declare themselves as a trader when advertising...

Onz

Original Poster:

507 posts

236 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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PositronicRay said:
Don't rely on this too much, treat it as a private buy.
This was the approach I was/will take.

750turbo said:
Ask yourself why they do not declare themselves as a trader when advertising...
If they advertise privately can they still have bought the car 'as trade' and completed and sent off the yellow section? Or, more pertinently, is there any reason why I shouldn't buy if they take this approach?

Aside from trying to absolve themselves of any liability by advertising as a private individual and perhaps saving some fees on eBay/autotrader (Perhaps not?) what other benefits do they realise from not declaring themselves a part time trader? Not having to put the sale through the accounts?


ZX10R NIN

30,618 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Onz said:
If they advertise privately can they still have bought the car 'as trade' and completed and sent off the yellow section? Or, more pertinently, is there any reason why I shouldn't buy if they take this approach?

Aside from trying to absolve themselves of any liability by advertising as a private individual and perhaps saving some fees on eBay/autotrader (Perhaps not?) what other benefits do they realise from not declaring themselves a part time trader? Not having to put the sale through the accounts?
It doesn't matter as long as you do all your checks & the car is the right one for you buy, as stated earlier treat it as a private sale & you'll be fine.

budfox

1,510 posts

159 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Surely if the OP treats this as a private sale he should only expect to pay a private price?

ZX10R NIN

30,618 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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budfox said:
Surely if the OP treats this as a private sale he should only expect to pay a private price?
He probably is at the end of the day if the car was over priced he wouldn't be buying



PositronicRay

29,048 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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budfox said:
Surely if the OP treats this as a private sale he should only expect to pay a private price?
yes

hammerrr7

55 posts

151 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
Onz said:
If they advertise privately can they still have bought the car 'as trade' and completed and sent off the yellow section? Or, more pertinently, is there any reason why I shouldn't buy if they take this approach?

Aside from trying to absolve themselves of any liability by advertising as a private individual and perhaps saving some fees on eBay/autotrader (Perhaps not?) what other benefits do they realise from not declaring themselves a part time trader? Not having to put the sale through the accounts?
It doesn't matter as long as you do all your checks & the car is the right one for you buy, as stated earlier treat it as a private sale & you'll be fine.
This. There is nothing wrong with part time dealers and reason they don't put their name onto the V5 is because it creates an additional previous owner. Do your checks and as an extra precaution, meet him at his home address so you know (should anything go wrong) where he/she lives.

Tc24

533 posts

169 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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My current car was from a bloke who traded from home part time. He worked at a main dealer and often bought their trade in stock from them, and mine happened to be one of these.

Up front about being a dealer, met at his home address and 3 years on the car is still great (bar the aircon which needed a "re-gas" - turned out to be a fecked condenser). Still, can't complain when it was a 9 year old car with 70k miles on at the time.