Help with 1/8th scale petrol RC car
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Chaps,
Evening, I wondering if I could have some advice. We have had an old RC car kicking around at work for a while and thought we might see if we cannot breath abit of new life into it. We are all total novices to this so some advice on what we need and rough costings would be great. Apparently the motor might not be working so might have to budget for a new one of these as well.
The enclosed pics is everything we have, thanks in advance.







Evening, I wondering if I could have some advice. We have had an old RC car kicking around at work for a while and thought we might see if we cannot breath abit of new life into it. We are all total novices to this so some advice on what we need and rough costings would be great. Apparently the motor might not be working so might have to budget for a new one of these as well.
The enclosed pics is everything we have, thanks in advance.
It's nitro so don't put petrol in it. Do you have any radio gear or starter box?
To be honest nitro engines aren't the easiest to get running especially old ones that have sat around doing nothing for a while, add to that a lack of experience you'll get annoyed with it fairly quickly.
If you do want to play with Nitro RC then I'd recommend putting some cash into something new eg http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hpi-trophy-3.5v2-buggy... or if you'd like to stick to on road http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hpi-rs4-nitro-3-evo-rt...
But electric is a lot easier, cleaner and faster however it can be a bit more expensive.
To be honest nitro engines aren't the easiest to get running especially old ones that have sat around doing nothing for a while, add to that a lack of experience you'll get annoyed with it fairly quickly.
If you do want to play with Nitro RC then I'd recommend putting some cash into something new eg http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hpi-trophy-3.5v2-buggy... or if you'd like to stick to on road http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hpi-rs4-nitro-3-evo-rt...
But electric is a lot easier, cleaner and faster however it can be a bit more expensive.
Since you're complete novice - Americans call the fuel "nitro" but it's a glow plug engine running on glow fuel.
Glow fuel is methanol. It's mixed with the oil (traditionally castor oil but realistically it'll be synthetic nowadays). Bigger (20cc+) glow fuel engines usually found in proper r/c models with wings run on this alone. Small ones like cars need nitromethane to run properly. The fuel is sold as "straight" (no nitromethane), 5%, 10%, 15%, 20%, 25% or 30% nitromethane. There will be a manual for that Japanese built OS Max engine specifying how much nitromethane it'll like.
Nitromethane ruins engines if left in them though - it's quite corrosive. Fuels with castor oil contents gum up inside the engines too. A strip down and reassembly to see what condition it's all in internally would be worthwhile.
Lastly, glow plug engines need a glow plug that is lit with a special connector and a small battery. A tiny filament glows yellow-hot to ignite the fuel initially similar to a modern diesel engine but the combustion keeps the plug hot for the next cycle. Rich running can douse the plug and conk the engine out. Lean running will seize the engine as it's starved of oil. Plugs are graded from cool to hot, and again the manual will specify which grade of plug you need. If it's an old engine, a brand new plug should be fitted as a matter of course IMHO.
I haven't played with IC cars, but have loads and loads of experience with glow engines in r/c aeroplanes...
Glow fuel is methanol. It's mixed with the oil (traditionally castor oil but realistically it'll be synthetic nowadays). Bigger (20cc+) glow fuel engines usually found in proper r/c models with wings run on this alone. Small ones like cars need nitromethane to run properly. The fuel is sold as "straight" (no nitromethane), 5%, 10%, 15%, 20%, 25% or 30% nitromethane. There will be a manual for that Japanese built OS Max engine specifying how much nitromethane it'll like.
Nitromethane ruins engines if left in them though - it's quite corrosive. Fuels with castor oil contents gum up inside the engines too. A strip down and reassembly to see what condition it's all in internally would be worthwhile.
Lastly, glow plug engines need a glow plug that is lit with a special connector and a small battery. A tiny filament glows yellow-hot to ignite the fuel initially similar to a modern diesel engine but the combustion keeps the plug hot for the next cycle. Rich running can douse the plug and conk the engine out. Lean running will seize the engine as it's starved of oil. Plugs are graded from cool to hot, and again the manual will specify which grade of plug you need. If it's an old engine, a brand new plug should be fitted as a matter of course IMHO.
I haven't played with IC cars, but have loads and loads of experience with glow engines in r/c aeroplanes...
If thats all you have then you wont be going anywhere fast
On top of what you show you need
A radio control transmitter (The box you hold to send commands to the car)
Nitro as mentioned earlier (the fuel)
A glow plug heater (to allow you to heat the glow plug when starting)
A starter (specifically designed to spins the knurled wheel that sticks through the slot in the chassis)
Spare glow plugs
Batteries
As earlier post said they can be temperamental at best
They are also noisy and scarily fast (and VERY dangerous in the wrong hands)
Unless you plan to spend a lot of time on getting the right kit over and above what you have then I would just put it on ebay or in a cupboard. Alternatively find a local club on www.brca.org as there will be people there that can help
On top of what you show you need
A radio control transmitter (The box you hold to send commands to the car)
Nitro as mentioned earlier (the fuel)
A glow plug heater (to allow you to heat the glow plug when starting)
A starter (specifically designed to spins the knurled wheel that sticks through the slot in the chassis)
Spare glow plugs
Batteries
As earlier post said they can be temperamental at best
They are also noisy and scarily fast (and VERY dangerous in the wrong hands)
Unless you plan to spend a lot of time on getting the right kit over and above what you have then I would just put it on ebay or in a cupboard. Alternatively find a local club on www.brca.org as there will be people there that can help
You want 20% Nitromethane.
Here's the manual for the engine: http://manuals.hobbico.com/osm/21rz-v01b-v01b-p-ma...
The chassis is a Hobao Pirate RS buggy chassis with a a Kyosho body and wheels. You may actually have a very rare model there.
Here's the manual for the engine: http://manuals.hobbico.com/osm/21rz-v01b-v01b-p-ma...
The chassis is a Hobao Pirate RS buggy chassis with a a Kyosho body and wheels. You may actually have a very rare model there.
Edited by ecsrobin on Saturday 10th January 14:30
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