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Can someone give me a price on a single Euro pallet being sent to UK from Estonia.
I already have a normal price with my normal sender, but I would like to see if anyone can beat it, it could mean quite a bit of work and lots of pallets, but I want to find the company with the best price rather than just going with my current company.
I already have a normal price with my normal sender, but I would like to see if anyone can beat it, it could mean quite a bit of work and lots of pallets, but I want to find the company with the best price rather than just going with my current company.
Mr Overheads said:
How many pallets?
How often?
What weight?
Fragile or not? e.g tiles would be heavy and fragile (not good for prices)
send me details.How often?
What weight?
Fragile or not? e.g tiles would be heavy and fragile (not good for prices)
Normal euro pallet size (180 com height due to cushions).
This is sample pallet, company does 50 million in turn over, do it right, then its good, but don't screw price as I check it daily.
Du1point8 said:
send me details.
Normal euro pallet size (180 com height due to cushions).
This is sample pallet, company does 50 million in turn over, do it right, then its good, but don't screw price as I check it daily.
So you mean that the pallet is stacked high with cushions i.e. lots of feathers/foam/fibre, presumably compacted so not transporting air, but still relatively light and certainly not fragile.Normal euro pallet size (180 com height due to cushions).
This is sample pallet, company does 50 million in turn over, do it right, then its good, but don't screw price as I check it daily.
So with 50m turnover, we're talking at least a full artic worth of pallets per day, all one way from Estonia to UK?
Du1point8 said:
Mr Overheads said:
How many pallets?
How often?
What weight?
Fragile or not? e.g tiles would be heavy and fragile (not good for prices)
send me details.How often?
What weight?
Fragile or not? e.g tiles would be heavy and fragile (not good for prices)
Normal euro pallet size (180 com height due to cushions).
This is sample pallet, company does 50 million in turn over, do it right, then its good, but don't screw price as I check it daily.
If double stacking isn't an option, can they build them higher? Seems like a big opportunity to save a lot of money... This is what I do, and I know that's the first place I'd be looking to cut costs...
Mr Overheads said:
How many pallets?
How often?
What weight?
Fragile or not? e.g tiles would be heavy and fragile (not good for prices)
ok... just to cover everythingHow often?
What weight?
Fragile or not? e.g tiles would be heavy and fragile (not good for prices)
is normal euro pallet
its 180cm high due to cushions.
its a singular test pallet we are running
if test pallet works fine, then we take as much as 80 million (turn over) company can take.
enough info?
nick s said:
Just a thought if you're considering full trailers... Can they build those pallets to different heights? 180cms high is only going to be non stackable, so only 33 pallet spaces with quite a lot of wastage above. If you can bring that down to around 130cms, then you could double stack and utilise full pallet space of 66 plts per trailer.
If double stacking isn't an option, can they build them higher? Seems like a big opportunity to save a lot of money... This is what I do, and I know that's the first place I'd be looking to cut costs...
These are very good points and exactly what I was thinking of. So can you answer Nick's points as well please.If double stacking isn't an option, can they build them higher? Seems like a big opportunity to save a lot of money... This is what I do, and I know that's the first place I'd be looking to cut costs...
Price is very dependent on volume, so saying it's a 50m or 80m turnover company doesn't help when no idea how much "turnover" one pallet contains. They could be diamond encrusted, gold thread cushions worth £1k each with 200 to a pallet or 10p per cushion bargain bin meaning a huge volume. I'm also assuming soft furnishing cushions but there are many other types of cushions that will be much heavier e.g. solid rubber cushions for industrial purposes.
How many pallets per day/week/month or year do you anticipate ball park?
1 pallet would just drop into the national pallet networks, but a full artic (assuming forklift available both ends and drop tail not needed) would likely be door to door - a very different service and price point, so testing the latter with the former would seem pointless. If intending to use full artic's then you surely need to test a full artic service not just one pallet.
If you don't want to put full details in a public forum, send me them by pm
I regularly send stuff to Europe, Africa and USA and have used these guys for many years and still can't quite believe the prices they do and have never had bad service.
Mission Despatch on 0845 094 2040 Call up and ask to speak to Mark who is the boss.
No connection other than happy customer so would like to see them do well.
Mission Despatch on 0845 094 2040 Call up and ask to speak to Mark who is the boss.
No connection other than happy customer so would like to see them do well.
Many things to consider here. First off, why chase the cheapest price?
There is always some fool who will undercut a decent, hard working company. It makes for two fools, the chap making no money & the other chap who erroneously believes he's sussed out the holy grail of delivery. Only when things go wrong do either party begin to consider what they've entered into.
As for the practicalities, forget this stuff about whether there might be a forklift at the other end or tail lifts or anything else. There will be. There always is, it's not 1965 & we're not roping & sheeting & hand balling loads on & off any more.
What you can expect in terms of price depends in no small part on what you can offer in volume. Test pallets are a canard. If the haulier knows that's what it is & much business may follow, they'll walk it there with armed guards from the Vatican. If they don't know, then it goes like any other groupage consignment & that means you could still easily suffer damage in an otherwise great service provider & wrongly throw the baby out with the bath water.
Your best bet is to tout the work about, listen carefully to the offers, make the most informed decision you can & manage it well. Dangling vague offers of business by referring to someone or others turnover is neither here nor there. My own business works for Tesco, they give us £1500 a week of haulage work. Big wow.
And try not to be one of those unimaginative drones who only hears the price. They're the ones who are least able to accept the consequences of their own insistences in my experience.
There is always some fool who will undercut a decent, hard working company. It makes for two fools, the chap making no money & the other chap who erroneously believes he's sussed out the holy grail of delivery. Only when things go wrong do either party begin to consider what they've entered into.
As for the practicalities, forget this stuff about whether there might be a forklift at the other end or tail lifts or anything else. There will be. There always is, it's not 1965 & we're not roping & sheeting & hand balling loads on & off any more.
What you can expect in terms of price depends in no small part on what you can offer in volume. Test pallets are a canard. If the haulier knows that's what it is & much business may follow, they'll walk it there with armed guards from the Vatican. If they don't know, then it goes like any other groupage consignment & that means you could still easily suffer damage in an otherwise great service provider & wrongly throw the baby out with the bath water.
Your best bet is to tout the work about, listen carefully to the offers, make the most informed decision you can & manage it well. Dangling vague offers of business by referring to someone or others turnover is neither here nor there. My own business works for Tesco, they give us £1500 a week of haulage work. Big wow.
And try not to be one of those unimaginative drones who only hears the price. They're the ones who are least able to accept the consequences of their own insistences in my experience.
In many respects, the price is the least important element. Finding a forwarder who's willing to go the extra mile is worth far more to a company.
A good one will care about your business as much as you do. At a previous place we had some extremely "specific" requirements that were more or less unique to our business. Everyone in the freight company who worked for us understood the hows and the whys of the situation, and so rather than waiting for an answer from us they were able to take the correct action straight away without having to refer back to us for an answer. I never let my managers know about all of the holes they dug me out of, but they dug enough people out of enough holes to have a really good relationship with everyone in the business.
I've also used companies who were dire. One particular company stands out. We were having a real problem with an urgent airfreight shipment last year in December, and I was waiting for a call-back that I had been promised. It didn't come so I rang, and didn't get an answer. I found the office manager's mobile number and rang him. They were on the way to their Christmas party (at 3 in the afternoon) so my load would have to wait. They didn't get any further business.
A good one will care about your business as much as you do. At a previous place we had some extremely "specific" requirements that were more or less unique to our business. Everyone in the freight company who worked for us understood the hows and the whys of the situation, and so rather than waiting for an answer from us they were able to take the correct action straight away without having to refer back to us for an answer. I never let my managers know about all of the holes they dug me out of, but they dug enough people out of enough holes to have a really good relationship with everyone in the business.
I've also used companies who were dire. One particular company stands out. We were having a real problem with an urgent airfreight shipment last year in December, and I was waiting for a call-back that I had been promised. It didn't come so I rang, and didn't get an answer. I found the office manager's mobile number and rang him. They were on the way to their Christmas party (at 3 in the afternoon) so my load would have to wait. They didn't get any further business.
i work in logistics, for 25 years,
cheapest isn't always best.
it amazes me how manufacturers will make something worth £50k and make a profit on it, then ask me for a quote to send to to for example Dubai.
Then ring round and save £50 but not realize their fragile eqpt is being collected at their premises and trucked to Madrid or Frankfurt for a flight out to the middle east, this involves a lot more handling of the freight and risks damage,
i base mine on sending it out of the nearest main airport.
not had a claim in ten years
i have one customer that copies in 39 freight agents for a cost. and leaves them in copy
i can tell you almost nobody replies.
i suppose were all guilty of shopping round, until were on the other end of if then we think twice lol
cheapest isn't always best.
it amazes me how manufacturers will make something worth £50k and make a profit on it, then ask me for a quote to send to to for example Dubai.
Then ring round and save £50 but not realize their fragile eqpt is being collected at their premises and trucked to Madrid or Frankfurt for a flight out to the middle east, this involves a lot more handling of the freight and risks damage,
i base mine on sending it out of the nearest main airport.
not had a claim in ten years
i have one customer that copies in 39 freight agents for a cost. and leaves them in copy
i can tell you almost nobody replies.
i suppose were all guilty of shopping round, until were on the other end of if then we think twice lol
That^^^
It's what goes on behind the scenes that counts & you get what you pay for. For example, dangle 500 pallets/week in front of Pallex, Pallet ways, Palletline etc & they'll offer you £20-£25ish anywhere in the UK. If you work out how it's done, you'd realise every pallet is handled through a bulk system with thousands of others & will be forked on & off eight separate times by delivery.
Come to me & it's one collection, one delivery, non stop. But I won't offer you £20...
It's what goes on behind the scenes that counts & you get what you pay for. For example, dangle 500 pallets/week in front of Pallex, Pallet ways, Palletline etc & they'll offer you £20-£25ish anywhere in the UK. If you work out how it's done, you'd realise every pallet is handled through a bulk system with thousands of others & will be forked on & off eight separate times by delivery.
Come to me & it's one collection, one delivery, non stop. But I won't offer you £20...
Slipperyfish said:
That^^^
It's what goes on behind the scenes that counts & you get what you pay for. For example, dangle 500 pallets/week in front of Pallex, Pallet ways, Palletline etc & they'll offer you £20-£25ish anywhere in the UK. If you work out how it's done, you'd realise every pallet is handled through a bulk system with thousands of others & will be forked on & off eight separate times by delivery.
Come to me & it's one collection, one delivery, non stop. But I won't offer you £20...
Im aware of that... my usual logistics company is a bit slack, which is ok when I deal with them and its 2+ weeks turn around, but not being able to get in contact with anyone to find out where my stock is and paying £420 exc VAT a pallet (only when there is one coming) grates just a tiny bit.It's what goes on behind the scenes that counts & you get what you pay for. For example, dangle 500 pallets/week in front of Pallex, Pallet ways, Palletline etc & they'll offer you £20-£25ish anywhere in the UK. If you work out how it's done, you'd realise every pallet is handled through a bulk system with thousands of others & will be forked on & off eight separate times by delivery.
Come to me & it's one collection, one delivery, non stop. But I won't offer you £20...
In addition to that they have still not got back to me with even a price and they were dealing with all my stock in and out of the UK.
I have already talked to several people mentioned and they are ranging from £350 - £410 exc VAT which is fine, I don't mind paying, but when the trade value is £5k its a bit much when Im paying 10% of the cost price in delivery, then can't get hold of anyone from logistics is getting more annoying.
Not penny pinching, I just want someone I can talk to over the phone when I have stock that is somewhere in Europe but none really knows where.
Du1point8 said:
Im aware of that... my usual logistics company is a bit slack, which is ok when I deal with them and its 2+ weeks turn around, but not being able to get in contact with anyone to find out where my stock is and paying £420 exc VAT a pallet (only when there is one coming) grates just a tiny bit.
In addition to that they have still not got back to me with even a price and they were dealing with all my stock in and out of the UK.
I have already talked to several people mentioned and they are ranging from £350 - £410 exc VAT which is fine, I don't mind paying, but when the trade value is £5k its a bit much when Im paying 10% of the cost price in delivery, then can't get hold of anyone from logistics is getting more annoying.
Not penny pinching, I just want someone I can talk to over the phone when I have stock that is somewhere in Europe but none really knows where.
Did you speak with Pavan? as we can track our shipments no problemIn addition to that they have still not got back to me with even a price and they were dealing with all my stock in and out of the UK.
I have already talked to several people mentioned and they are ranging from £350 - £410 exc VAT which is fine, I don't mind paying, but when the trade value is £5k its a bit much when Im paying 10% of the cost price in delivery, then can't get hold of anyone from logistics is getting more annoying.
Not penny pinching, I just want someone I can talk to over the phone when I have stock that is somewhere in Europe but none really knows where.
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