Roll bars

[Stevo302]

Would this increase or decrease the value of a classic? I've not got one but from a softly point of view could be money worth spent. What have people had done to theirs on here? Full, half, short? Price? I've never looked but thought I'd ask.
Cheers.

[madsvlund]

Difficult to say, but it will increase the safety of the car.

My cage is a full 10 point with door bars and leg protection, custom made as no of the shelf solutions are available. And with limited space in the cabin, is it an art to make a full cage. A normal 4 point roll bar will be a good alternative for the street

[GAjon]

My road car loop, I extended the top rear rails, welded in square section verticals from the top to the exising bottom rails.
Welded on drilled and tapped pads to the top section for the loop to bolt to with matching clearance hole pads, can be fitted and removed from inside the cabin.

It need reshaping/reprofiling to match the roof line better, as it is in this picture it interferes with rear view,which I got around by fixing an additional rear view mirror temporarily.



A word of warning, I ran my car for 25 years without a problem, I fitted this and wrote it off.

Cant say I noticed if it reduced chassis twisting under load, but I suppose it must add some strength.

[Dollyman1850]

madsvlund said:

Difficult to say, but it will increase the safety of the car……If you use it with a 4 / 5 point harness and crash helmet

[Moto]

I believe there was a TVR owner a few years ago whose passenger was tragically killed by hitting their head on the roll-over bar during an accident.

[griff 200]

. Must admit I think I'll wear a helmet if I think I might be driving fast but padding on frame must be also on my list also race harness even for road use head to roll bar contact doses not sound good. Richard

[Dollyman1850]

griff 200 said:

. Must admit I think I'll wear a helmet if I think I might be driving fast but padding on frame must be also on my list also race harness even for road use head to roll bar contact doses not sound good. Richard

I think we have a name for your car….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r97Nv8N7-mI

N.

[griff 200]

Well close ? I thought the other day may be putting a double m logo on the back. Richard

[madsvlund]

Dollyman1850 said:

madsvlund said:

Difficult to say, but it will increase the safety of the car……If you use it with a 4 / 5 point harness and crash helmet

Correct, with the right seats you head can't get in contact with a roll bar. But the front section need's padding, and it will be safe.

But imagine a side impact on a TVR....

[catfishdb]

As Mads has pointed out. Side impact would not be a pretty sight.

Arthur

[Stevo302]

Some interesting reads, loved the "soon as had one fitted wrote it off". But hope you were ok. Would have pissed me off for sure. Love some of the very clean chassis pics there too, very neat. Don't think I'll be fitting one for a wile yet.
Thanks guys.

[mk1fan]

Mr V has said to me that fitting the roll bar to the Gredge was the best mod he had done - better than the 500 engine he fitted!

I want to fit one to Samy as part of the repairs.

[Stevo302]

mk1fan said:

Mr V has said to me that fitting the roll bar to the Gredge was the best mod he had done - better than the 500 engine he fitted!

I want to fit one to Samy as part of the repairs.

Sorry to ask but what's the Gredge and Samy?

[status]

Stevo302 said:

mk1fan said:

Mr V has said to me that fitting the roll bar to the Gredge was the best mod he had done - better than the 500 engine he fitted!

I want to fit one to Samy as part of the repairs.

Sorry to ask but what's the Gredge and Samy?

The Gredge....?

[mk1fan]

Stevo302 said:

Sorry to ask but what's the Gredge and Samy?

I don't know why we tolerate these people!

The Gredge is Jack Valiant's 500 powered Wedge as linked above. Unfortunately, suffered a knock whilst waiting at a petrol station. Currently awaiting paint in a secret location.

Samy is my S - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Currently waiting the ok from the insurers to go and get repaired.

[Adrian@]

Moto said:

I believe there was a TVR owner a few years ago whose passenger was tragically killed by hitting their head on the roll-over bar during an accident.

The car rotated, and was travelling backwards, Victoria was scooped up and travelled the few inches upwards and was killed by the roll cage prior the car bursting into flames, John was scooped up, and travelled less as he was taller, although injured (life changing) got out and went back in for Victoria, braving the flames, not knowing that she was already dead.
Adrian@

Race cars only, with harnesses fitted and worn 100%..as I am proof of the damage (or my stomach is, bearing the scars,having had two operations from not wearing harnesses correctly in an accident!) that it can do....all in IMHO

Edited by Adrian@ on Saturday 10th January 10:44

[GPW41]

madsvlund said:

But imagine a side impact on a TVR....

Here is mine.... luckily it was in a wedge that at least does have something along the sides.....




Came within a couple of inches of losing both legs.... Not much room left here






Dave

Edited by GPW41 on Saturday 10th January 17:09

[Slow M]

catfishdb said:

As Mads has pointed out. Side impact would not be a pretty sight.

Arthur

Arthur, I noticed that your chassis is missing the mounting points, behind the seats, that connect (indirectly, through the door lock) to the door intrusion bars, in my car. Were they deleted, or were they never there?

Best,
Bernard

[Slow M]

Dollyman1850 said:

griff 200 said:

. Must admit I think I'll wear a helmet if I think I might be driving fast but padding on frame must be also on my list also race harness even for road use head to roll bar contact doses not sound good. Richard

I think we have a name for your car….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r97Nv8N7-mI

N.

Hahaha! I love it, even if I thought you were going in a less subtle direction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPleoY2u9BE&or...

Best,
Bernard.

[Moto]

Ouch!!

That certainly makes one think seriously.... and I guess it's more probable to have a side impact than a roll.

Note to oneself.... MUST take a second look before pulling out at junctions.