17" and Offset 25....?....????
17" and Offset 25....?....????
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Manolis1978

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110 posts

212 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Hi guys

Anyone on 17" with offset 25??? Any pics.?.

I would preference 18" but not that many choices..

I am looking for the xxr527 4x108 17" et25

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Manolis1978 said:
Hi guys

Anyone on 17" with offset 25??? Any pics.?.

I would preference 18" but not that many choices..

I am looking for the xxr527 4x108 17" et25
33 rear 25 front but that`s on standard rim widths . Have you seen any wheels you like ?


rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
Have you seen any wheels you like ?
He mentions xxr527 or this one


Which is a nice wheel but as Daz says, depends on width et 25 on a 7" is standard front, et 33to35 on a 7.5" on the rear, can vary.

TA14

14,332 posts

287 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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I would have thought that standard offsets would be best:

http://www.xxrwheels.com/xxr_527.shtml

Tyre size may be tricky 235/49/17f and 255/40/17r ??

QBee

22,470 posts

173 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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TA14 said:
I would have thought that standard offsets would be best:

http://www.xxrwheels.com/xxr_527.shtml

Tyre size may be tricky 235/40/17f and 255/40/17r ??
Beware of buying too wide tyres....and several hundred pounds later finding they catch on the chassis or wheel arches. That is soooo frustrating. And make sure that the overall rolling diameter is approximately standard (somewhere around 605mm front and 630mm rear. Too much bigger and you are asking for trouble.

I have a set of track tyres on 215/45/17 fronts and 235/40/18 rears, and they catch on the wheel arch on almost every car to which they are fitted. Chims, IMHO, run fine on 215 or 225 width tyres, indeed you need a bit of "bite" for grip given the light weight of the car.

One more thing to watch out for, OP - the size of the hole in the middle of the wheel, where the hub sticks through. Chimaeras require 63.2 mm minumum, and that's quite a large size for 4 x 108 wheels. Most are 58-62mm, which simply won't fit.

QBee

22,470 posts

173 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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As Rigga implies, the size chart on their website says the minimum wheel size is 8.25 inches wide, which makes the minimum tyre width 225mm (which will look skinny and undersize) and the max 255mm (which may be too wide for the car. 235-245 on the front however will be a high risk of catching on the inside, and given the already appalling turning circle of the Chim (my Audi A8 and Merc ML both turn tighter), you really don't want to be fitting stops to the steering rack.

The standard TVR size is 7 inch front and 7.5 rear for reasons....wheel arch space and handling.

Be careful if you go wider - you could be £1000+ the poorer and feeling very frustrated.

TA14

14,332 posts

287 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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QBee said:
Beware of buying too wide tyres....and several hundred pounds later finding they catch on the chassis or wheel arches. That is soooo frustrating. And make sure that the overall rolling diameter is approximately standard (somewhere around 605mm front and 630mm rear. Too much bigger and you are asking for trouble.

I have a set of track tyres on 215/45/17 fronts and 235/40/18 rears, and they catch on the wheel arch on almost every car to which they are fitted. Chims, IMHO, run fine on 215 or 225 width tyres, indeed you need a bit of "bite" for grip given the light weight of the car.
There's something odd going on there. Remember that rubbing is also a combination of other things: suspension ratings/dimensions/condition, body shape (they vary) and how symmetrical the body is mounted (they also vary)

Note that chims were originally 627mm dia f and 654r and that 245 were one of the standard width fitments. Many Chims run 255 rear with no problems.

QBee

22,470 posts

173 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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We always get a difference of opinion on this. So be it! Not arguing with you TA14, you are correct, many do fit the wider sizes. All TVRs are indeed different, and there's the problem. Adjustable dampers give more adjustment too, but they are not fitted as standard.

FWIW, the later Chims came out of the factory on 205/55/15 (607mm) and 225/50/16 (631mm).

I am aware that some people fit 245 and even 255 rears. Some of those who do (Phazed comes to mind) skim their wheel arches inside and re-fibreglass to make room for the wider wheels. The fronts are more critical because they turn, and ride height is a big contributor as many people like that "hunkered down" look, but it adds to the tyre-catching problem.

My TVR expert firmly believes that the handling is worsened by going too wide, and quotes race car lap times to back this up. I am running my track day Chim some times on the 215/235 888s I mentioned above, but prefer it on 215 all round Federals, as it seems to grip better.

Just saying be careful OP, and before you go for wider tyres think if you really need/want that wider size (which generally costs more), as it is really gutting when you fit them and they catch badly. A good friend turned up at a track day last year with a brand new set of Toyo 888s (about £800 worth) on his Griff, 225 fronts and 245 rears. They had been catching on all four corners all the way to the track, and we spent the first hour or so adjusting ride height experimenting with spacers to make the car driveable. I do agree before you say it that 888s are squarer shouldered, but is it a problem you want to risk?

TA14

14,332 posts

287 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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QBee said:
I am running my track day Chim some times on the 215/235 888s I mentioned above,
Yes, that would be the default size for 888s because, as you mentioned later, that equates almost to 225/245 for 'standard' tyres which is the 500 spec size.

QBee said:
Some of those who do (Phazed comes to mind) skim their wheel arches inside and re-fibreglass to make room for the wider wheels.
Phazed antics are not relevant to most since he was using very wide rims - was it 9" and 10"?

As an aside has anyone heard of 8.25" rims before?

rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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I run 7.5 front and rear et35 and 215 front 245 rear tyres.
Not all body's sit square on the chassis on all car's, also racks are not all central to the chassis, so there are interference issues on some car's.

Note final 100 griffs came with 7.5 width et35. (Or 33) rims all round.

ianwayne

8,525 posts

297 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Estorils fitted to mine.

I have 225/50 x 15 on the front and they only just clear the wheelarch. The 245/45 x 16 on the rear are no problem.

Use this website for instant calculations:

http://www.kouki.co.uk/utilities/visual-tyre-size-...

215/40 x 17 on the front and 215/40 x 18 on the rear would be closest in diameter if going up in size.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Manolis1978 said:
Hi guys

Anyone on 17" with offset 25??? Any pics.?.

I would preference 18" but not that many choices..

I am looking for the xxr527 4x108 17" et25
They look very much like the sp12`s If you have the money i would go for these .

They actually fit straight on with recommended tyre sizes .

http://www.actproducts.co.uk/product/sp12-griffith...








These are hand built cars so all are slightly different and also tyre manufactures make there tyres wider than others .

Falken 452`s 255`s are to close for comfort .You will need a 9j rim for 255`s



Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Monday 12th January 16:53

gacksen

680 posts

172 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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looks strange to me laugh



check the clearances in the arches. i guess some bodywork has to go if you want to run these in the chim.

Edited by gacksen on Monday 12th January 18:13

Manolis1978

Original Poster:

110 posts

212 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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I am more confused now... It seems like I will have to stop looking for something fancy and get a set of standard wheels...
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Manolis1978

Original Poster:

110 posts

212 months

Monday 12th January 2015
quotequote all
I am more confused now... It seems like I will have to stop looking for something fancy and get a set of standard wheels...
😠

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Manolis1978 said:
I am more confused now... It seems like I will have to stop looking for something fancy and get a set of standard wheels...
??
This might help

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/archive/index.php/t-503872...

The 17" s are 8.252 wide and the 18"s are ether 8.75 or 9.75 wide rims .

You might get away with 8.25 on the front .

You could even go 17" all the way round .

I would try and get an ET offset on the front 25 and rear 35

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and for those that have other cars - there's a load of 15x7, 15x8, 16x8 packages on the site too. You can find them here XXR WHEEL PACKAGES - SRB POWER LTD (http://www.srbpower.com/categories/XXR-WHEELS/XXR-WHEEL-PACKAGES/)



Richard 858

1,882 posts

164 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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And if you find the wheels & tyres you do choose are a little tight on the arches, Daz can help with that too ! Sorry mate couldn't resist wink

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Richard 858 said:
And if you find the wheels & tyres you do choose are a little tight on the arches, Daz can help with that too ! Sorry mate couldn't resist wink
Thanks Richard ,I knew you would at it again rolleyes

rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Didnt wanna mention daz's bodywork skills when he posted that tyre pic biggrin

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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rigga said:
Didnt wanna mention daz's bodywork skills when he posted that tyre pic biggrin
Still trying to get hold of a paint sprayer in Sheffield who worked for Raceproved ! anyone know where he is ?