Buying a car that you know has been sold cheaper before
Buying a car that you know has been sold cheaper before
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James19181

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268 posts

142 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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I'm Interested in a car that appears to be on privately for a reasonable price, around £4k. The current owner hasn't had the car long but has a plausible reason for selling.

A bit of digging and I've found a previous ad for the car (amazing what you can find on the net!), presumably from when the current owner bought it given the date. It was with a small time trader and for considerably less than it is currently up for, around £2k. I'm not sure if that's down to the dealer mispricing or what, but that was a bargain price.

So, assuming history and test drive etc. check out, and there's no reason I can see why it was so cheap, what would you do? Accept it's currently a reasonable price and the current owner got a bargain? I fear I'd always have a nagging feeling I paid twice what I could have. But I missed the deal, so would it be daft to avoid it for that reason?

jjr1

3,042 posts

290 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Daft

DrDeAtH

3,701 posts

262 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Maybe it had some mechanical or electrical issues which have now been fixed by the present owner.

Escy

4,130 posts

179 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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I don't get this mentality. I'm currently selling a car which has been engine converted. I've had a few people ask me why i'm selling. I've been honest, have said I bought it with a damaged engine with the intention of converting it and selling it on. I never hear back of anyone after telling the truth. It seems like i'll need to trot out the old classics, "wife is pregnant", "company car forces sale", etc.

It seems like people aren't happy if they feel someone else is making a few quid.

As for the plausible reason this car is for sale again, don't be daft. He's selling it on as he can double his money. The thing is, if it's priced well and you're happy with it, why should it matter what he paid?

Renovation

2,035 posts

151 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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I'd ask the seller.

Only because I'd be concerned it had a problem that he may have bodged up.

I couldn't care if he's making a profit - if everyone cared about that, we'd all be bankrupt.

Pommygranite

14,472 posts

246 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Depends on the car - what is it?


Sump

5,512 posts

197 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Escy said:
I don't get this mentality. I'm currently selling a car which has been engine converted. I've had a few people ask me why i'm selling. I've been honest, have said I bought it with a damaged engine with the intention of converting it and selling it on. I never hear back of anyone after telling the truth. It seems like i'll need to trot out the old classics, "wife is pregnant", "company car forces sale", etc.

It seems like people aren't happy if they feel someone else is making a few quid.

As for the plausible reason this car is for sale again, don't be daft. He's selling it on as he can double his money. The thing is, if it's priced well and you're happy with it, why should it matter what he paid?
Or they don't trust your dodgy mechanical skills..

BritishRacinGrin

26,601 posts

190 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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What's it worth? Pay that. Any less and you can call it a bargain.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

218 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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The
James19181 said:
I'm Interested in a car that appears to be on privately for a reasonable price, around £4k. The current owner hasn't had the car long but has a plausible reason for selling.
My bet is that his plausible reason is made up and that he saw a chance to make a few quid and took it. He might even be a trader masquerading as a private seller.

Jasandjules

72,634 posts

259 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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What are similar cars priced at? If 4k, then it is a fair price and the bloke before you got a bargain.

Do you also look up the land registry sale prices and not bid on houses? I mean, I think my house sold in the 60s for a few thousand quid......

Djtemeka

1,986 posts

222 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Jasandjules said:
What are similar cars priced at? If 4k, then it is a fair price and the bloke before you got a bargain.

Do you also look up the land registry sale prices and not bid on houses? I mean, I think my house sold in the 60s for a few thousand quid......
But houses appreciate..

jas xjr

11,309 posts

269 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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I would not worry too much if the car was worth what you are paying for it. Forget what it sold for in the past.might be more opportunity for a haggle.
As long as it stacks up on its own merits,what is sold for previously is irrelevant.
Everything we buy was bought cheaper than we pay usually.

defblade

8,075 posts

243 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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I have never, ever, seen a car from a trader/dealer that wasn't priced a little high, given the overall condition of it. I've gone to look at a few "bargains" in my time; they never turn out to be anywhere near my version of "VGC & FSH" wink

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Maybe the previous ad was rubbish .
As an example my wife's old car wasn't selling for 5.5k. I reworded it, took new pics, upped the price to 6.5k & sold it the next day..

James19181

Original Poster:

268 posts

142 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Thanks, fair coments all.

It was just comething I'd never come across before so wanted some other opinions

steveo3002

11,232 posts

204 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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have a proper good look round it incase it was cheap becuase its been roared through a hedge and had a poor quality repair

if it all checks out to be a good car then its worth the going rate same as any other

996TT02

3,342 posts

170 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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It's worth what it's worth (only you can decide re the value, we don't even know what it is) but it's price history is meaningless, however, you knowing it, means that you are in a position to bargain (if you don't let on). You know that the vendor is still doing well if he accepted an offer of 3k so he may be inclined to accept it.

Use the knowledge to your advantage. Vendor happy, you happy. Spread the love!

datum77

470 posts

151 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Have sold lots of cars in the past through the various places I've worked at. When a punter comes and and asks for some sort of discount 'because you're making,(insert your own figure here), profit out of it', my retort is always to say that it is irrelevant what I bought the car for - I may have got it for free.........their facial appearance changes.

islaydan

16 posts

145 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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Similar thing happened to me, but I had some insider knowledge!

I bought a cheap Lexus RX300, tidy looking and low miles - but short MOT and gas guzzling petrol. It needed a number of issues to be fixed, including suspension work, new exhaust and grinding brakes. I only paid a few hundred pounds for it as the previous owner was sick of it and wanted rid! Ignoring the first nightmare sale that went Pete Tong (see my previous posts), I was able to get the car back and readvertised it at £800. It sold to a chap the other side of the water to me.

Barely 6 weeks later it popped up at £2000 on a local ads site. It now had 12 months MOT. I'd copied the docs from last time, so was able to check on the MOT details and seen it had earlier failed spectacularly, with dire warnings on the dangerous state of the brakes, suspension and exhaust and emissions. The guy had then obviously stumped up for a lot of expensive garage work to get it through the MOT and get shot of it.

Now, armed with an MOT with no advisories, he kept on reducing the price, eventually letting go for £1400. Still a bargain in my book.

supertouring

2,228 posts

263 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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I have been looking at a specific model for several months, nearly 6, so see a lot of cars coming and going.

Seen one recently that was very cheap but other end of country. Sold cheaply to private buyer in end.

Next day, new ad on Pistonheads for same car with a few grand added on with some tale it was taken in part-ex for another car he was selling.

Would not buy from a "private" buyer who sells cars as a "hobby" and who has not owned the car for a reasonable amount of time.