I need an electric fence system
I need an electric fence system
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skid

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652 posts

273 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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I was wondering how easy they are to get hold of?

I had an attempted break in on my double garage 2 days ago. Security held the attacked door enough to prevent access but damage was done to the frame and door mechanism. Pain in the arse and waste of time and money rectifying +£1k in damage just for one skag head to smash something in search of some tools to sell for £50 of shit to shoot up his arm. I'll stick the hyperdermic through his eye when I catch him!

Anyway, luckily my bike, Cobra and 3 Mates track day car were undamaged.

My neighbours were great as well as some passing well meaning citizen who between them phoned the Cops (who attended in a few minutes!!! ) and phoned around until they found a Mate who had my work number.

There's a good description of him and a name was mentioned over the radio which I think nice Mr Plod recognised as a local lad and might give me his name.

I'll just sit and wait the outcome of the legal route. I have a long memory.

Plod was very helpful and chuckled lots when I seriously but jokingly said I'd wire the door up to the mains........... which got me thinking!

If I can get a cheap farming electric fence charger I could easily wire it to the door handles. The doors are wooden and I could easily isolate other metal components so that only a deliberate action of grabbing the handle would discharge a current.

Thoughts, ideas and discussion please.

>>> Edited by skid on Friday 7th January 14:07

pdV6

16,442 posts

277 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Probably illegal as hell, but oh so very satisfying!

sparkythecat

8,015 posts

271 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Little Old Lady is walking past yer garage when she has a "bit of a turn" and feels dizzy. She grabs the door handle to steady herself and gets 'zapped'.

Her pacemaker overloads and she croaks.

Are you liable?

The no win no pay solicitors representing the recently bereaved will probably think so!

wedg1e

26,943 posts

281 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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A simple oscillator circuit and a spare car ignition coil would be cheaper....

vixpy1

42,687 posts

280 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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My Mum has electric fences. I've roasted my important bits on it before while climbing over it. The horse however leans his Bum on it and does'nt seem to notice!

Also, never pee on an electric fence while drunk.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

255 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Do it

It's illegal, but you know you want to

not love machine

7,609 posts

251 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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I am with you on this one.

Go for it. How about a mantrap?

There was a guy in a local village to me who lived out in the sticks. His car kept getting broken into and now, in his glovebox, he has a mantrap and it is chained and bolted/welded to his car. God forbid anyone who puts their hand in his glovebox. It is hideous apparently. A real arm off job.

omitchell

19,761 posts

251 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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how about if you had an electric fence on the inside of the door which has accidentally fallen on to the door handle then surely it wouldn't be illegal, anyway if you go to your nearest tractor dealer, horse shop they tend to sell the starter kits for not a lot

count duckula

1,324 posts

290 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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sparkythecat said:
Little Old Lady is walking past yer garage when she has a "bit of a turn" and feels dizzy. She grabs the door handle to steady herself and gets 'zapped'.

Her pacemaker overloads and she croaks.

Are you liable?

The no win no pay solicitors representing the recently bereaved will probably think so!


easy drag the old lady into the road, and say you saw her collapse.


malc

Le TVR

3,097 posts

267 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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I have something similar to this
www.robinsons-uk.com/products/ProductDetail.asp?ProductCode=41328

You should see how far it can make a 600kg horse jump

skid

Original Poster:

652 posts

273 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Hmmmm....

It seems health and safety have got to this area too. THe fences that used to give me a proper belt when I was a kid appear to be not made anymore.

I believe they used to be 2 cables one positive and one negative run parallel with the negative on the ground. These, from experience, appeared to overcome things like rubber foot wear. Just spoken to a fence retailer (who says he has loads of calls like mine) and the energizer systems have changed with just a positive cable and the energizer anchored to ground ar source. Apparently with a finished driveway and 99.9% chance of him wearing trainers he isn't going to feel a thing!

ing arse!!!! The safety police are everywhere!

I need to understand some basic physics again I think. I'm assuming I need high voltage, low amps and DC to hurt but not kill. Could I get something from Mapilns to achieve this or is there another way.

As for the Legal side? As if I give a shit! My garage is over 30' from the road and there's no excuse to be touching it.

Alos anyone know any good/cheap camera systems?

Mark

not love machine

7,609 posts

251 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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I had a belt off a badger fence the other day and it was worse than electronic ignition. Yeeehaaa!

sadako

7,080 posts

254 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Davel

8,982 posts

274 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Have a colleague who lives in a village in South Africa.

He owns a small farm with an almost derelict farmhouse and which keeps getting broken into.

Everytime he's on the farm and catches a venomous snake - he puts it in the farm house!

One day soon, someone will get a very nasty shock...

wolf1

3,091 posts

266 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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There are commercially available electric fences out there. I used to work for a company who had one. If you opened the front gate wrong it used to give you a proper bolt that you didn't forget. It was basicaly an inner fence attatched to a quality outer one. This was fine enough to prevent brush pasts and the like, but if you made a concerted effort to get over it the thing gave you what for.

beanbag

7,346 posts

257 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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BliarOut said:
Do it

It's illegal, but you know you want to


I'm not sure whether it is illegal. Your doing it on private property where there should be no trespassers.

You could of course cover yourself by placing a small discreet sign warning potential chavs to keep away......

shirley temple

2,232 posts

248 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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beanbag said:

a small discreet sign warning potential chavs to keep away......


CHAV'S CAN'T READ!!

beanbag

7,346 posts

257 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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shirley temple said:

beanbag said:

a small discreet sign warning potential chavs to keep away......



CHAV'S CAN'T READ!!


precisely. and you have yourself legally covered.

skid

Original Poster:

652 posts

273 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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wolf1 said:
There are commercially available electric fences out there. I used to work for a company who had one. If you opened the front gate wrong it used to give you a proper bolt that you didn't forget. It was basicaly an inner fence attatched to a quality outer one. This was fine enough to prevent brush pasts and the like, but if you made a concerted effort to get over it the thing gave you what for.


That's what I thought but the pro I spoke to said in an urban tarmaced driveway situation with said villan wearing trainers then he won't feel a thing.

Time for a plug, a 3 amp fuse (being considerate here) and some wire strippers I think. With the AC power it should keep him pinned to the handle so at least 8 hours later when I get home I can unplug him as he'll still be there!

rev-erend

21,586 posts

300 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Do it .. do it ..

Search on ebay for electric fences..

Heres an example.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1048&item=7126076915&rd=1

This one's better - an energiser run's from a car battery ..now theres an idea..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16239&item=7126081133&rd=1

>> Edited by rev-erend on Friday 7th January 16:15