X-Y chromosomes
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BliarOut

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72,863 posts

255 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Someone explain it to me, I wasn't listening in biology.

Lois-Bird

14,706 posts

268 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Women have XX
men have XY

Due to meiosis (formation of gametes - sex cells) eggs all have an X and sperm can be X or Y.

Names X and Y due to shape. The X carries more information than the Y hence why men are more likely to suffer from recessive disorders carried on the X chromosome...there is often no corresponding DNA to use instead.

What did you actually want to know?!

not love machine

7,609 posts

251 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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The Y is also known as the superiority chromosome.

All babies are technically female until the "superior hormone" comes along and performs enlightened artistic sculpture on the other X chromosome.




JonRB

78,102 posts

288 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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And because each man's sperm carries both an X and a Y, and contributes half of the XY when it fertilises an egg, then either an X is added to the X in the egg (so producing a girl) or a Y (hence producing a boy).

Which is why you have a 50:50 chance of fathering a boy or a girl.

In extremely rare circumstances the baby can have 2 X and a Y (XYX / XXY / YXX) and you have a child with a very small penis who has characteristics of both male and female. No, honestly.

Jinx

11,790 posts

276 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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JonRB said:
In extremely rare circumstances the baby can have 2 X and a Y (XYX / XXY / YXX) and you have a child with a very small penis who has characteristics of both male and female. No, honestly.


That explains a lot - I have long hair, can't drive and own more than 3 pairs of shoes..... Is there a cure?

not love machine

7,609 posts

251 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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The interesting thing is, with Turners syndrome (XO) the outward appearance is a rather ugly female wheras with Klingfelthers Syndrome (XXy), there is a very sad hybrid of a bloke/woman (big hips, female hair patterns, female mind (poor bastard), but male chopper, etc). Whack it in google (the latter) and you come up with allsorts of oddities. Rather interesting, I think.

Lois-Bird

14,706 posts

268 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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JonRB said:
Which is why you have a 50:50 chance of fathering a boy or a girl.


Although that isn't technically true!

MilnerR

8,273 posts

274 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Its called klinefelters syndrome iirc. you can also get XXX and XO (turners syndrome)

The rates for XXY and XXX are about 1-1000 births!

BliarOut

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255 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Lois-Bird said:

What did you actually want to know?!

Dunno, I just like to know stuff and I'm a bit lacking on the chromosome knowledge front it would seem

Li'l pugs

1,323 posts

275 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Lois-Bird said:

JonRB said:
Which is why you have a 50:50 chance of fathering a boy or a girl.



Although that isn't technically true!


1stly, why the change from Posture Is Everything ?

2ndly, why is it not strictly true ? I was always under the impression that 50:50 was about right. We're not going into the realms of "from behind gives boys 'cos the sperm has to swim further or at the beginning of the cycle produces girls 'cos the sperm doesn't have to swim as far" rubbish are we ?

(I presume not, you being a student midwife and all)

Paul

Wacky Racer

39,816 posts

263 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Li'l pugs said:

1stly, why the change from Posture Is Everything ?



Personally, I preferred plain old Lois myself....

not love machine

7,609 posts

251 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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MilnerR said:
Its called klinefelters syndrome iirc. you can also get XXX and XO (turners syndrome)

The rates for XXY and XXX are about 1-1000 births!


What are the symptoms for XXX?

BliarOut

Original Poster:

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255 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Wacky Racer said:

Li'l pugs said:

1stly, why the change from Posture Is Everything ?




Personally, I preferred plain old Lois myself....


Oi, you lot, get out of my thread

You want this one
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=141&t=147557

The Wiz

5,875 posts

278 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Lois-Bird said:
Women have XX
men have XY

Due to meiosis (formation of gametes - sex cells) eggs all have an X and sperm can be X or Y.

Names X and Y due to shape. The X carries more information than the Y hence why men are more likely to suffer from recessive disorders carried on the X chromosome...there is often no corresponding DNA to use instead.

What did you actually want to know?!


Typical bloody woman .... witters away for ages and then asks well what do you want to know?

I'll get my coat

MilnerR

8,273 posts

274 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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not love machine said:

MilnerR said:
Its called klinefelters syndrome iirc. you can also get XXX and XO (turners syndrome)

The rates for XXY and XXX are about 1-1000 births!



What are the symptoms for XXX?


Almost completely normal except for subnormal levels of intelligence and lower fertility levels.
Am i describing a girl you know well love machine?

BliarOut

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

255 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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But surely that holds no scientific basis due to the X-Y nature of sperm..... It's all to do with which wins the egg and spoon race.

See, I'm paying attention

Oi, cosmoschick..... you deleted your post and made mine look bloody silly!



>> Edited by BliarOut on Friday 7th January 16:19

cosmoschick

7,977 posts

265 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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BliarOut said:
Oi, cosmoschick..... you deleted your post and made mine look bloody silly!


Oops sorry!

I thought I'd do a bit of research following my initial post and found that although it was my understanding you should have intercourse after ovulation to increase your chances for a girl, another theory is to have intercourse the day before, during or just after ovulation for a boy!

I'm a bit confused now. And didn't want to mislead anyone and get sued!

Julian64

14,317 posts

270 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Ahhh, three or four guys here demonstating the effectiveness of the Y chromosome.

BliarOut

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

255 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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cosmoschick said:

BliarOut said:
Oi, cosmoschick..... you deleted your post and made mine look bloody silly!



Oops sorry!

I thought I'd do a bit of research following my initial post and found that although it was my understanding you should have intercourse after ovulation to increase your chances for a girl, another theory is to have intercourse the day before, during or just after ovulation for a boy!

I'm a bit confused now. And didn't want to mislead anyone and get sued!

Consider yourself formally PH Sued

cosmoschick

7,977 posts

265 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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BliarOut said:

cosmoschick said:


BliarOut said:
Oi, cosmoschick..... you deleted your post and made mine look bloody silly!




Oops sorry!

I thought I'd do a bit of research following my initial post and found that although it was my understanding you should have intercourse after ovulation to increase your chances for a girl, another theory is to have intercourse the day before, during or just after ovulation for a boy!

I'm a bit confused now. And didn't want to mislead anyone and get sued!


Consider yourself formally PH Sued




*makesaquickphonecalltomylawyerboss*

I wonder if I'll have to prove my theory as part of my defence!