8 owners affect price of a cars price
8 owners affect price of a cars price
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wycoller

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568 posts

207 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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1 owner vehicle or 8 owners how does it affect the value

V8KSN

4,713 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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wycoller said:
1 owner vehicle or 8 owners how does it affect the value
If its a 4.0 RS its worth peanuts and i'll take it off your hands for a tenner!

If its a 2002 996 Carrera its worth about £350,000 and your money is safer than houses!

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Need some further info to answer this mate! biggrin

Moog72

1,600 posts

206 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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Depends on the car doesn't it? GT3, GT3 RS or something exotic is valued far more on condition than number of owners I would have thought. If it's a "regular" car then it could (and I stress could) be a sign that there is an underlying problem and so is being sold relatively cheap to move it on to the next punter

Get it checked out if in any doubt and then make up your own mind as to whether the price is realistic or not

Nobbles

585 posts

289 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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For an 'ordinary car' it depends on how long the owners had the vehicles and how they were sold on? If each time they were sold and had a PPI with the work done with the history of that then with some arm twisting maybe the same as a similar condition one owner. But surely when it gets to the sought after stuff, my car was previously owned from new by Mr ? with a few pictures and all the history, tax discs etc it is worth more just for the story.

Koln-RS

4,122 posts

241 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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It's a tricky one and, depends on lots of factors.

In years gone by, there may have been a suggestion that there was something wrong with the car with numerous owners, so it was quickly off loaded. Or, a really good example would be held onto.

Nowadays, cars tend to change hands more frequently, but I'd still like to see an average ownership span of 2-3 years, with a good history with each owner and a record of each point of sale.

James44

268 posts

198 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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I've heard from a few reputable indys that porsches tend to have higher owners than most as many want to live the dream for a little while, so not necessarily an indication of an underlying problem.

If its 3 or 4 years old, then that would seem real high.

I was the 5th owner of a 5 year old 996 and kept it 4 years without issue.

J

WindyMiller67

443 posts

169 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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+1
I am the 4th owner of a 6 year old 997.

mollytherocker

14,459 posts

238 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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If an 8 pwner car is worth less, then what is an ex PEC car sold through an OPC thats been ragged by 1000 people worth?

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wycoller

Original Poster:

568 posts

207 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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mollytherocker said:
If an 8 pwner car is worth less, then what is an ex PEC car sold through an OPC thats been ragged by 1000 people worth?

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LOL

jakesmith

9,497 posts

200 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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I looked at a 5 year old R8 but 7 prev owners put me right off. Screamed 'lemon' to me.

w5pwr

458 posts

219 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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I think in general an 8 owner car would be harder to sell and therefore be reflected in the price, unless it's something rare?



GT4owner

21,146 posts

294 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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wycoller said:
1 owner vehicle or 8 owners how does it affect the value
On a 1 year old car quite a lot on a 12 year old car not at all.

I personally would NOT buy a 8 owner car even at 12 years old but that's just me.

thegoose

8,077 posts

239 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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GT4owner said:
wycoller said:
1 owner vehicle or 8 owners how does it affect the value
On a 1 year old car quite a lot on a 12 year old car not at all.

I personally would NOT buy a 8 owner car even at 12 years old but that's just me.
Brilliant bit of self-contradiction there!

If it makes no difference at all why would you not buy it?!

g7jhp

7,033 posts

267 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Get an Independent Porsche Inspection on what ever you buy and buy on condition.

But as a guide:

If it's a 25 year old 964 with 8 owners it's wouldn't worry me.

If it's a 2 year old 991 with 8 owners I'd be asking why has it been moved on so quickly.

I'd still check both anyway.

GT4owner

21,146 posts

294 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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thegoose said:
Brilliant bit of self-contradiction there!

If it makes no difference at all why would you not buy it?!
that's not contradiction ffs

8 owners on a 12 year old car will not affect the price.

I would not buy a 8 owner car, no self-contradiction at all.
it's never about price when I buy a car, it has to do with many factors one of them for me is amount of owners.

billzeebub

3,911 posts

228 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Performance cars/coupes/2seaters tend to get through more owners generally. Peoples needs and circumstances change and such cars as Porsches tend to be able to accommodate such changes in circumstance (eg Longer work commute, children appearing, reduction in financial circumstance etc) less easily than most cars. There is no reason to be worried regards a few owners on the V5. I would definitely not assume a car is a lemon just because of numerous owners. I have kept performance cars for as little as 3 months on occasion. The reasons I sold have never been to do with the car itself. All it takes is a few people with similar changing circumstances consecutively buying the car. However, there is a caveat. The more owners the more chance that one, or more, of those owners has not driven the car sympathetically from cold etc.

thegoose

8,077 posts

239 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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GT4owner said:
that's not contradiction ffs

8 owners on a 12 year old car will not affect the price.

I would not buy a 8 owner car, no self-contradiction at all.
it's never about price when I buy a car, it has to do with many factors one of them for me is amount of owners.
Market prices are determined by what buyers are prepared to pay. If 8 owners would take people like you out of the group of potential buyers then that means a car with that many owners has less interest, so needs to be at a lower price to entice someone to buy it.

From a personal perspective I'm firmly of the opinion that the number of owners is little more than a number on a piece of paper (the V5C) kept in a kitchen drawer and doesn't affect my enjoyment of a car one way or the other (providing the car itself is good of course), but I do realise that it's easier to find buyers for cars with a lower number of owners, which in turn means an affect on values. Your post demonstrates that quite well I think, hence I find it difficult to see it as anything other than a contradiction when you state that some people (yourself included) would be put off buying but that it makes no difference on values - the two do not compute I'm afraid.

Crimp

909 posts

216 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Condition/History
All that matters.
I was 9th owner of my old GT3 sold the car no problem.
I was the 3rd owner of my GT2 harder to sell.

I now have a 7 owner Turbo doesn't bother me in the slightest as long as the history is there and all the boxes are ticked condition wise.

thegoose

8,077 posts

239 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Crimp said:
Condition/History
All that matters.
I was 9th owner of my old GT3 sold the car no problem.
I was the 3rd owner of my GT2 harder to sell.

I now have a 7 owner Turbo doesn't bother me in the slightest as long as the history is there and all the boxes are ticked condition wise.
Yeah, but to flip it, if someone were to ask how many 911's an owner's had and it's in the dozens then maybe you'd be right to think there's something not quite right with him. tongue out

Not that I'm thinking of anyone in particular or pointing the finger you understand, not me, no siree whistle

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wycoller

Original Poster:

568 posts

207 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Crimp said:
Condition/History
All that matters.
I was 9th owner of my old GT3 sold the car no problem.
I was the 3rd owner of my GT2 harder to sell.

I now have a 7 owner Turbo doesn't bother me in the slightest as long as the history is there and all the boxes are ticked condition wise.
crimp were you located anywhere near colne
appreciate all the comments its condition condition condition but opinions are valued
its never bothered me in the past but more you fork out you have to cover the niggling doubts car will be inspected if the deal goes through itll be quite a story to tell