Audi A5 2.0 TFSI - Anyone got one?
Discussion
As per the title. Interested in what the performance is really like as 0-60 is claimed to be 6.5 seconds which is on a par with a golf GTI. What's it like in the real world though? would welcome any other general comments on the A5 regarding build quality, comfort, refinement etc.
Thanks.
Dolf.
Thanks.
Dolf.
Driven many of them and surrounded by them most days.
Needs quattro; 270 odd lb ft and the 2wd variant suffers badly from torque steer. quattro version is actually a nice steer, plenty of pull and very capable. A lot more refined and laid back than a Golf GTI but certainly a nippy car.
A5 quality is overall very good; that particular engine has suffered issues with oil consumption. Some are fine, some are thirsty, some need new breathers, some need engine rebuilds. Up to 500ml of oil in 1,000 km is considered normal by Audi. Young cars with Audi history get it covered on goodwill or warranty, older cars I hear rumours Audi are now quietly covering after class action in the US.
Ensure everything on MMI works as the amplifiers in the boot if exposed to any moisture will fail and are expensive to replace.
Original window regulators will fail at some point (design issue) and require both replacing. New parts are much better.
They suffer from stone chips, particularly low down on front bumper.
They suffer bolster wear (easily and cheaply repaired DIY).
Really need Xenons, the halogens are weak and look a bit rubbish. You'll also want heated seats, bluetooth and navigation. B&O speaker upgrade nice to have rather than an absolute essential, ditto electric seats.
Later (mid 2009) cars with LED tail lights look a bit nicer and at the same time HDD sat nav became available as an option and is worth having.
They should be serviced every 12 months/10k miles for most users. If you're only doing motorway stuff then they'll go to 20k between services. They shouldn't be strung out that long otherwise.
Needs quattro; 270 odd lb ft and the 2wd variant suffers badly from torque steer. quattro version is actually a nice steer, plenty of pull and very capable. A lot more refined and laid back than a Golf GTI but certainly a nippy car.
A5 quality is overall very good; that particular engine has suffered issues with oil consumption. Some are fine, some are thirsty, some need new breathers, some need engine rebuilds. Up to 500ml of oil in 1,000 km is considered normal by Audi. Young cars with Audi history get it covered on goodwill or warranty, older cars I hear rumours Audi are now quietly covering after class action in the US.
Ensure everything on MMI works as the amplifiers in the boot if exposed to any moisture will fail and are expensive to replace.
Original window regulators will fail at some point (design issue) and require both replacing. New parts are much better.
They suffer from stone chips, particularly low down on front bumper.
They suffer bolster wear (easily and cheaply repaired DIY).
Really need Xenons, the halogens are weak and look a bit rubbish. You'll also want heated seats, bluetooth and navigation. B&O speaker upgrade nice to have rather than an absolute essential, ditto electric seats.
Later (mid 2009) cars with LED tail lights look a bit nicer and at the same time HDD sat nav became available as an option and is worth having.
They should be serviced every 12 months/10k miles for most users. If you're only doing motorway stuff then they'll go to 20k between services. They shouldn't be strung out that long otherwise.
I've got a 2012 2.0 TFSi Black Edition, FWD. The only complaint I'd have with the car is the lack of room in the back, I'm 6 foot so I have the seat right back, there is no room behind my seat. Mine doesn't drink much oil, only about a litre between services. You do get a fair bit of wheel spin in the wet when the tyres are getting worn but I get on average high 30s MPG and have seen an indicated 50 MPG plus on steady motorway runs which you won't get with a quattro.
The Bang & Olufsen stereo is good to have, likewise nav. The 19" wheels are very easy to scuff and the Black Edition wheels are expensive to repair.
The Bang & Olufsen stereo is good to have, likewise nav. The 19" wheels are very easy to scuff and the Black Edition wheels are expensive to repair.
Definitely check which seats it has, the standard poverty spec seats in the SE version are just horrible. I am not a smurf but the seat puts a lot of pressure on the back of leg and is just uncomfortable.
I found the steering to be quite dull, unresponsive, rubbery and what feels like a delay between the steering wheel input and the wheels turning, very vague around the steering centre so gets blown all over the road so constantly seesawing the steering wheel to stay in lane.
The only time it feels attached to road is halfway round a corner, really doesn't inspire much confidence in a straight line and if its wet, anytime you open the boot it dumps water in the car.
Honestly I wouldn't spend someone else's money on one let alone my own.
I found the steering to be quite dull, unresponsive, rubbery and what feels like a delay between the steering wheel input and the wheels turning, very vague around the steering centre so gets blown all over the road so constantly seesawing the steering wheel to stay in lane.
The only time it feels attached to road is halfway round a corner, really doesn't inspire much confidence in a straight line and if its wet, anytime you open the boot it dumps water in the car.
Honestly I wouldn't spend someone else's money on one let alone my own.
Dr G said:
Needs quattro
This ^^Remember the GTI manages a 6.5s 0-60 despite 2WD, because of it's lighter weight (around 150kg less, at a guess). A5 needs 4WD to match that.
Can't speak specifically for the A5, but A4 Avant quattro with that engine is great. Oil consumption is the only bugbear for me.
Lots of useful info so thanks to you all. Off to view one tomorrow. S Line with Quattro, Nav, DAB, and some very nice looking seats. Will be interesting to see how it compares to my Cayman. Not expecting it to be as fast (because it won't be) but still looking forward to it.
And it's Misano Red. One of my favourite colours but it will be interesting to see how it looks on the A5.
And it's Misano Red. One of my favourite colours but it will be interesting to see how it looks on the A5.
I've just got one.
not put a watch to it, but I can believe the 6.5 time, it's not exactly fast, but far from slow if you get what I mean, it does not feel as fast until you watch the rate of acceleration on the speedo.
Agree with needing Quattro, in FWD it's just unpleasant, a mix of traction control and screwed up steering.
Oil wise, only done 1,000 miles on it, and so far, the electronic gauge has not moved (14 car).
not put a watch to it, but I can believe the 6.5 time, it's not exactly fast, but far from slow if you get what I mean, it does not feel as fast until you watch the rate of acceleration on the speedo.
Agree with needing Quattro, in FWD it's just unpleasant, a mix of traction control and screwed up steering.
Oil wise, only done 1,000 miles on it, and so far, the electronic gauge has not moved (14 car).
Scuffers said:
I've just got one.
not put a watch to it, but I can believe the 6.5 time, it's not exactly fast, but far from slow if you get what I mean, it does not feel as fast until you watch the rate of acceleration on the speedo.
Agree with needing Quattro, in FWD it's just unpleasant, a mix of traction control and screwed up steering.
Oil wise, only done 1,000 miles on it, and so far, the electronic gauge has not moved (14 car).
I think it's the long gearing that makes if seem slower than what it is?not put a watch to it, but I can believe the 6.5 time, it's not exactly fast, but far from slow if you get what I mean, it does not feel as fast until you watch the rate of acceleration on the speedo.
Agree with needing Quattro, in FWD it's just unpleasant, a mix of traction control and screwed up steering.
Oil wise, only done 1,000 miles on it, and so far, the electronic gauge has not moved (14 car).
Right, had a drive in one today. Very comfortable place to be with lots of gadgets. Looks good in red (to me at least - which is all that matters) and seemed plenty quick enough. The car I drove was a manual, but I agree with the comment above, that as a car it seems very good at accelerating without you necessarily noticing - although you do get that 'shove' only big cars seem to deliver. The one thing I did find a little disappointing was the lack of exhaust note. No doubt how it's meant to be though and rectified easily enough I assume.
How Audi can charge you to have a light in the glove box though is beyond me. If I buy one and it doesn't have the interior light pack I can actually see me buying some sort of stick on light from the Pound shop to put in there. Not cool Audi. Not cool at all...
How Audi can charge you to have a light in the glove box though is beyond me. If I buy one and it doesn't have the interior light pack I can actually see me buying some sort of stick on light from the Pound shop to put in there. Not cool Audi. Not cool at all...
Dr G - Your expertise is needed!
Have found a car I really like and am very close to buying it. Build quality seems great but I'm really fussy when it comes to rattles, creaks etc.
The car I'm interested in seems very well screwed together apart from a slight intermittent tapping / creaking sound which I would guess is coming from around the steering wheel / column area. ' Normal' roads seem to trigger it and I'm not sure it's linked to moving the wheel.
Will be asking the dealer to look into it before I commit but any experience of something similar / things I should suggest they look at?
I appreciate things like this are hard to identify, especially over the internet! Wanted to ask somebody with your experience though.
Cheers.
Have found a car I really like and am very close to buying it. Build quality seems great but I'm really fussy when it comes to rattles, creaks etc.
The car I'm interested in seems very well screwed together apart from a slight intermittent tapping / creaking sound which I would guess is coming from around the steering wheel / column area. ' Normal' roads seem to trigger it and I'm not sure it's linked to moving the wheel.
Will be asking the dealer to look into it before I commit but any experience of something similar / things I should suggest they look at?
I appreciate things like this are hard to identify, especially over the internet! Wanted to ask somebody with your experience though.
Cheers.
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