Canon and Nikon - action cameras
Canon and Nikon - action cameras
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rottie102

Original Poster:

4,033 posts

208 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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Why do you think they decided to ignore the market completely?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

278 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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Because the market is relativly small? They typically let it ride and let others make the mistakes, make the market, before coming along. IMO not the best stratergy but thats what it is.

Simpo Two

91,531 posts

289 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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Action camera?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

278 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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Simpo Two said:
Action camera?
Gopro etc I assume

K12beano

20,854 posts

299 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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Simpo Two said:
Action camera?
I thought the "camera" came before the "action" and after the "lights"



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rottie102

Original Poster:

4,033 posts

208 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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RobDickinson said:
Because the market is relatively small?
"Since its founding, GoPro has shipped more than 11 million cameras"
"A total of 2.1 million action camera units shipped in the second quarter of 2014"
Doesn't sound too small to me.

Simpo Two

91,531 posts

289 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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I think GoPro has too much of a following now for mainstream camera makers to have a decent go. It's a very different market too, not really a camera but a chip in a tiny box.

ExPat2B

2,159 posts

224 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Nikon and Canon are very conservative, traditional Japanese companies.

They take a very long time to react to the market, and they tend to iterate, not innovate. Nikon in particular tends to let others innovate and then produce a better quality version once it thinks it is not a fad.

It's a real pain for camera users.......both Canon and Nikon and are guilty of deliberately crippling their own tech to try to drive people to the higher priced camera offerings - for example buffer sizes on all but the D3 & D4 are pathetic.

As always in tech, if you don't push as hard as you can, someone else will steal your sales. Sony and Samsung are really shaking things up in the marketplace, leading the way on mirrorless, producing pro DX bodies like the NX1 that shame Canikon.

Anyone who has watched the DX and Mirrorless markets will not find any of this a surprise.

K12beano

20,854 posts

299 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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ExPat2B said:
Nikon and Canon are very conservative, traditional Japanese companies.

They take a very long time to react ....
yes This!

I recall, probably 2006 - and I think Simpo may have been witness to this, Olympia IIRC - a bod from Nikon strongly defending why they would never go to "Full Frame" sensors in their dSLRs. It was laced with the technical drawbacks, but was really a set of excuses at the time.

They, of course, must have been working on this at the time, but clearly their horizons were simply could they keep up with or get ahead of Canon. I expect similar thoughts pervaded Canon too.

There's some merit in being incredibly conservative. Only Canon dared to change their SLR lens mounts in the last half century.... hehe

Fubles

394 posts

205 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Gopro has a huge share of the market, excellent brand recognition and marketing, even the might of Sony is struggling to put up a decent fight, it would be wise to make a slow a considered approach if you were going to enter the game.

That said it is still a small market, especially to Canon who operate in the hundreds of billions, while GoPro pulls in a few hundred million.

Simpo Two

91,531 posts

289 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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K12beano said:
I recall, probably 2006 - and I think Simpo may have been witness to this, Olympia IIRC - a bod from Nikon strongly defending why they would never go to "Full Frame" sensors in their dSLRs.
Indeed I was! Though had they said the opposite they'd have killed a chunk of sales stone dead, so had to say so regardless.

As for Sony, Samsung etc innovating, it may be a good thing but is because they can't take on the big two head to head.