safe help needed
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insurance_jon

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4,099 posts

277 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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a client has been requested to get a safe to put his watches in by his insurance company.

He's not happy as he likes to have them on watch winders that need power, so are there:

1. any safes with plug sockets in them?

or

2. safes with integrated watch winders?

thanks in advance

andy tims

5,606 posts

277 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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A safe big enough to house a watch winder is going to be very expensive.

Mr Pointy

13,427 posts

190 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Yes, just Google 'watch winder safe', but they aren't cheap. Here's a London supplier:

http://www.underwood-london.com/shop/9-safes-

Dolf Stoppard

1,393 posts

153 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Would love to know how much those safes cost. From looking at the weight of some of them a downstairs location would seem to be sensible!

ADP68

528 posts

202 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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I have a 4 watch winder that's elec or battery powered. A paketa branded one I think from Amazon.

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Id ask the vendor to drill the rear to allow a cable to be passed through. Anything can be drilled.

I have a safe which weighs 200 kilos and the door is monsterous, but the rear and base are less substantial and derive a lot of their strength from being properly fixed to a wall.

Shake&Bake

371 posts

216 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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GC8 said:
Id ask the vendor to drill the rear to allow a cable to be passed through. Anything can be drilled.

I have a safe which weighs 200 kilos and the door is monsterous, but the rear and base are less substantial and derive a lot of their strength from being properly fixed to a wall.
This is of course true, however in the unfortunate instance of a fire or flood, you would of course lose your Fire and IP rating (if any) for your safe. You may have to notify your insurers of same.

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

245 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Can't you drill it and use a gland on to maintain the IP rating.

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

245 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Can't you drill it and use a gland on to maintain the IP rating.

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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A good, although technical, point.

It only needs to be an extremely small hole, as a mains watch winder will either draw an extremely low amperage, or be low voltage. Remember that the safe will still be flush to the masonry.

Another possible solution would be low voltage over a ribbon cable, through the door. The fireproof seal is usually a temperature sensitive material which grows to become airtight when the temperature rises, so itll seal still.

sad61t

1,100 posts

241 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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I tremble to think how much one of those safes would cost - the same company do winder modules that start at $3500 for twin winders so a safe with 16 winders weighing 350 kg is probably worth more than any watch collection this side of a billionaire's.

However the description of the winders states they can be placed in a safe for up to a year - so changing the batteries every six months has got to be a better bet than drilling holes in a standard safe and hoping the insurance agency doesn't wash their hands of your claim when they find out.