Sierras. Please educate me.
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Most of the time I spend my life utterly confident that I've got it right, and others have it wrong. It's not arrogance, just a good level of aplomb.
But every now and again I think: Maybe I'm wrong and everyone else is right.
Take the Ford Sierra. I spent 10 years of my childhood in terminal boredom being the backseat passenger in both shapes. It was crap. When I was long enough for the seat belt to rest below my left ear I was promoted to front seat duties where, without hyperbole, the most exciting thing was the joystick that adjusted the speakers. You could also flick the DIGITAL clock from 12h to 24h mode, but that's so banal I feel embarrassed to even mention it anecdotally.
So why do these cars have such a following? More bemusing for me, why do they command such good money when there were infinitely better cars being made at the time available at similar budget.
As I say. Maybe I'm wrong.
But every now and again I think: Maybe I'm wrong and everyone else is right.
Take the Ford Sierra. I spent 10 years of my childhood in terminal boredom being the backseat passenger in both shapes. It was crap. When I was long enough for the seat belt to rest below my left ear I was promoted to front seat duties where, without hyperbole, the most exciting thing was the joystick that adjusted the speakers. You could also flick the DIGITAL clock from 12h to 24h mode, but that's so banal I feel embarrassed to even mention it anecdotally.
So why do these cars have such a following? More bemusing for me, why do they command such good money when there were infinitely better cars being made at the time available at similar budget.
As I say. Maybe I'm wrong.
Edited by radiodanno on Tuesday 20th January 21:29
I had an Xr4x4, and later on a 2.0 GL. I also drove a 2.3 diesel quite often. They were decent and competent at the time.
I had no idea they were fetching daft prices - are they?
OP can you give us an example of what you mean - i.e where you've seen one for sale and thought "car X which I could buy for the same would be infinitely better" I'm not arguing, just want to understand your logic.
As an aside - most old Fords seem to rise in value once the majority have rotted away and/or been turned into kit cars.
I had no idea they were fetching daft prices - are they?
OP can you give us an example of what you mean - i.e where you've seen one for sale and thought "car X which I could buy for the same would be infinitely better" I'm not arguing, just want to understand your logic.
As an aside - most old Fords seem to rise in value once the majority have rotted away and/or been turned into kit cars.
Edited by V8forweekends on Tuesday 20th January 21:52
gazza285 said:
radiodanno said:
So why do these cars have such a following? More bemusing for me, why do they command such good money when there were infinitely better cars being made at the time available at similar budget.
Such as? The Montego? The Mk 2 Cavalier? I remember the Sierra was one of those cars that would rarely start in the snow, or at least everyone in my road who had one seemed to have cold starting problems, but other than that they seemed a competent car. I always fancied an XR4x4 and smile when I see one (which is rare these days).
Liquid Tuna said:
Yes, I'd like to hear about this infinite number of better cars too. Not to start an argument, but I was a child of the 80s and I must've forgotten a lot of cars if what you say is true?
I remember the Sierra was one of those cars that would rarely start in the snow, or at least everyone in my road who had one seemed to have cold starting problems, but other than that they seemed a competent car. I always fancied an XR4x4 and smile when I see one (which is rare these days).
I remember the Sierra was one of those cars that would rarely start in the snow, or at least everyone in my road who had one seemed to have cold starting problems, but other than that they seemed a competent car. I always fancied an XR4x4 and smile when I see one (which is rare these days).
None of mine ever had any starting problems - and the XR4x4 was quite good in snow - although it was strongly rear drive biased.
A decent car comapired to most other manufacturers back then.
B est of the RWD Fords, best bulit, best handling,,, you get the idea.
C osworth.
D rifters have pushed the prices up of all RWD bangers.
E kids who lusted after them or were driven by a loved/respected adult are now at the age to spend cash on getting back that feeling.
sorry i could get E to start the reason off
B est of the RWD Fords, best bulit, best handling,,, you get the idea.
C osworth.
D rifters have pushed the prices up of all RWD bangers.
E kids who lusted after them or were driven by a loved/respected adult are now at the age to spend cash on getting back that feeling.
sorry i could get E to start the reason off

radiodanno said:
LP670 said:
Because Cosworth
Don't you think that's the same as choosing heterosexuality because of Megan Fox - even though you end up with Megan Trainor?There's a world between the 1.8lx and the Cosworth.
It's like wondering why people get excited about a 1980s' 3 Series without realising it's about the M3 specifically, rather than a 316.
radiodanno said:
Take the Ford Sierra.
So why do these cars have such a following? More bemusing for me, why do they command such good money when there were infinitely better cars being made at the time available at similar budget.
As I say. Maybe I'm wrong.
I owned a Ford Sierra and drove it most days for 3 years, so perhaps I can comment with some experience:So why do these cars have such a following? More bemusing for me, why do they command such good money when there were infinitely better cars being made at the time available at similar budget.
As I say. Maybe I'm wrong.
Edited by radiodanno on Tuesday 20th January 21:29
It was one of those cars with an extra factor that you couldn't quite put your finger on, but which made it pleasing, you felt in tune with it. It was more than the sum of its parts.
May seem strange looking at it now, but remember it's now a 35 year old design, so I'm not saying it stacks up against a new Mondeo, or even a Kia Cee'd. But it was great at the time. I loved it.
V8forweekends said:
Liquid Tuna said:
I remember the Sierra was one of those cars that would rarely start in the snow, or at least everyone in my road who had one seemed to have cold starting problems, but other than that they seemed a competent car. I always fancied an XR4x4 and smile when I see one (which is rare these days).
None of mine ever had any starting problems - and the XR4x4 was quite good in snow - although it was strongly rear drive biased.
Engines do sound "different" when it's that cold though
Heated windscreens on the later ones saved a lot of scraping the screen
Edited by s m on Tuesday 20th January 22:23
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