Most Cerberas are speed 6's ?!
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SO as part of my new ownershp experience, I've been buying a few contemporary magazines off ebay. The one I've most enjoyed is the May 2004 Classic and Sportscar whose cover proclaims the Cerbera speed 6 to be the Best Ever TVR.
Firstly out of curiosity, do we know the whereabouts of Yellow SP6 S685 JDG?
Anyway, one of the comments that caught my attention was that the speed 6 Cerb outsold the V8's by 3:1 (!), and further mention of most Cerbs being built from 1999-2000, most of which were sp6's (mine's one of them).
Given the Cerbera owners sticky here on PH (what is the difference between a Cerbera 4.0 and a Cerbera speed 6 4.0?), it looks to me to be the other way around! Certainly most of the chatter on here relates to V8's, and I've noticed that when I ask a question, it's assumed I have a V8 unless I specify otherwise.
So either 1) the article is wrong or 2) most of the SP6 Cerbs are broken
Do we know what the split was from the factory?
Firstly out of curiosity, do we know the whereabouts of Yellow SP6 S685 JDG?
Anyway, one of the comments that caught my attention was that the speed 6 Cerb outsold the V8's by 3:1 (!), and further mention of most Cerbs being built from 1999-2000, most of which were sp6's (mine's one of them).
Given the Cerbera owners sticky here on PH (what is the difference between a Cerbera 4.0 and a Cerbera speed 6 4.0?), it looks to me to be the other way around! Certainly most of the chatter on here relates to V8's, and I've noticed that when I ask a question, it's assumed I have a V8 unless I specify otherwise.
So either 1) the article is wrong or 2) most of the SP6 Cerbs are broken
Do we know what the split was from the factory?
Another new(ish) owner, Speed6 manufactured 2001.
Certainly most posts are about V8s rather than Sp6s, which would lead one to think there are more V8s around.
Anyway I am happy with mine and just need to get some decent weather to use it, most of the miles I have done were getting it home after buying it.
Certainly most posts are about V8s rather than Sp6s, which would lead one to think there are more V8s around.
Anyway I am happy with mine and just need to get some decent weather to use it, most of the miles I have done were getting it home after buying it.
Just as a very rough straw poll - PH has 12 Cerbs for sale of which 9 are AJP and 3 are S6. Autotrader has 5 Cerbs 4 AJP and 1 S6.
Its nothing like a big enough sample but a ratio of about 4:1 in favour of AJPs would be my gut feeling. I suspect that the magazine article is talking rubbish!
ETA
In the sticky of PH owned Cerberas (ignoring all the specials)
AJP 4.2 : 106
AJP 4.5 : 103
S6 : 40
Not really what you would expect if the majority made were S6
Its nothing like a big enough sample but a ratio of about 4:1 in favour of AJPs would be my gut feeling. I suspect that the magazine article is talking rubbish!
ETA
In the sticky of PH owned Cerberas (ignoring all the specials)
AJP 4.2 : 106
AJP 4.5 : 103
S6 : 40
Not really what you would expect if the majority made were S6
Edited by Tanguero on Saturday 24th January 14:56
Full official details here:
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_cerbera
S6's should have been registered as 3996cc but it wouldn't surprise me if a few were registered as 4000cc. Means the S6 is the most exclusive though!
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_cerbera
S6's should have been registered as 3996cc but it wouldn't surprise me if a few were registered as 4000cc. Means the S6 is the most exclusive though!
Corpulent Tosser said:
I am happy with mine and just need to get some decent weather to use it, most of the miles I have done were getting it home after buying it.
You and me both! NilsP said:
Don't know really
Maybe because speed six owners can find a lot of answers to their questions on the tuscan/t350/sagaris pages?
Anything engine related, yes - but then you get asked if you're sure you're on the right forum and haven't you got a V8? Maybe because speed six owners can find a lot of answers to their questions on the tuscan/t350/sagaris pages?
SP6 Cerberas do seem to occupy an odd little no-man's land
ukkid35 said:
Yes, it's on eBay 303054027533 being sold damaged
No fault accident
Not going to repair the car
Not registered as CAT C/D
Does that make sense to anyone?
I'd surmise the other party has paid him cash for the accident, perhaps because he felt it would be written off & didn't want to claim through insurance, or maybe a hit & run so no payment forthcoming; perhaps whilst the repair work isn't that pricey, there's other stuff that needs doing, chassis maybe, & he can't/doesn't want to put that much money into it, so is cutting his losses.No fault accident
Not going to repair the car
Not registered as CAT C/D
Does that make sense to anyone?
It's a thread resurrection but the OP's reference was talking bull anyway. A visit to howmanyleft shows only 328 Cerberas registered in 1999 or later out of 842 still taxed or SORN:
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_cerbera#...
1997 and 1998 year models cover over half of the Cerberas registered.
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_cerbera#...
1997 and 1998 year models cover over half of the Cerberas registered.
This thread has details from The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, which claims 1578 Cerberas made
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
TVR Production by Model
Model 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
Cerbera 441 372 271 168 102 72 87 61 4 0 0
Chimaera 873 1085 998 373 102 72 4 0 0 0 0
Sagaris 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 235 107 0
Griffith 232 231 187 90 82 64 0 0 0 0 0
T350 0 0 0 0 0 10 403 454 140 8 0
Tamora 0 0 0 0 24 217 108 141 79 9 0
Tuscan 0 0 4 686 626 375 267 201 254 182 0
Typhon 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0
Total 1546 1688 1460 1317 936 810 871 860 712 306 0
TVR Production by Year
Year JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC TOTAL
2006 60 66 41 25 27 28 20 19 20 0 0 0 306
2005 72 74 58 62 66 68 74 38 61 45 48 46 712
2004 72 84 82 68 69 70 52 88 79 67 76 53 860
2003 80 84 82 60 84 82 85 40 84 73 67 50 871
2002 80 80 78 91 95 60 60 38 80 55 55 38 810
2001 80 80 82 61 100 102 88 55 74 74 82 58 936
TVR Export by Year
Year JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC TOTAL
2006 6 5 4 2 6 5 5 3 4 0 0 0 40
2005 9 7 3 6 5 5 5 5 6 3 4 6 64
2004 7 11 8 7 8 10 5 10 2 5 2 5 80
2003 7 9 10 6 8 8 8 4 8 7 13 7 95
2002 8 7 12 11 10 9 5 5 8 7 7 6 95
2001 6 4 4 5 5 5 6 5 5 6 8 10 69
The website TVRBlog used to keep records of various machines,
I.e. they claimed only 6 TVR lightweights built, but had records of 24 claiming to be LW
https://web.archive.org/web/20170925022722/http://...
There's also been suggestions that 1996 Cerbera were made
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_cerbera
842 total left in the UK? Seems a consistant number over the last few years
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
TVR Production by Model
Model 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
Cerbera 441 372 271 168 102 72 87 61 4 0 0
Chimaera 873 1085 998 373 102 72 4 0 0 0 0
Sagaris 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 235 107 0
Griffith 232 231 187 90 82 64 0 0 0 0 0
T350 0 0 0 0 0 10 403 454 140 8 0
Tamora 0 0 0 0 24 217 108 141 79 9 0
Tuscan 0 0 4 686 626 375 267 201 254 182 0
Typhon 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0
Total 1546 1688 1460 1317 936 810 871 860 712 306 0
TVR Production by Year
Year JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC TOTAL
2006 60 66 41 25 27 28 20 19 20 0 0 0 306
2005 72 74 58 62 66 68 74 38 61 45 48 46 712
2004 72 84 82 68 69 70 52 88 79 67 76 53 860
2003 80 84 82 60 84 82 85 40 84 73 67 50 871
2002 80 80 78 91 95 60 60 38 80 55 55 38 810
2001 80 80 82 61 100 102 88 55 74 74 82 58 936
TVR Export by Year
Year JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC TOTAL
2006 6 5 4 2 6 5 5 3 4 0 0 0 40
2005 9 7 3 6 5 5 5 5 6 3 4 6 64
2004 7 11 8 7 8 10 5 10 2 5 2 5 80
2003 7 9 10 6 8 8 8 4 8 7 13 7 95
2002 8 7 12 11 10 9 5 5 8 7 7 6 95
2001 6 4 4 5 5 5 6 5 5 6 8 10 69
The website TVRBlog used to keep records of various machines,
I.e. they claimed only 6 TVR lightweights built, but had records of 24 claiming to be LW
https://web.archive.org/web/20170925022722/http://...
There's also been suggestions that 1996 Cerbera were made
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_cerbera
842 total left in the UK? Seems a consistant number over the last few years
MarkwG said:
I'd surmise the other party has paid him cash for the accident, perhaps because he felt it would be written off & didn't want to claim through insurance, or maybe a hit & run so no payment forthcoming; perhaps whilst the repair work isn't that pricey, there's other stuff that needs doing, chassis maybe, & he can't/doesn't want to put that much money into it, so is cutting his losses.
I can't see anyway that could be repaired for less than an grand (I imagine it would be significantly more)So the chances of the at fault party coming up with that rather than let go through an insurance claim seems slim
Which leaves the 'hit and run' possibility, but that seems unlikely from the description of the accident
So why would the owner not have their own insurance cover the repair - third party cover only?
ukkid35 said:
I can't see anyway that could be repaired for less than an grand (I imagine it would be significantly more)
So the chances of the at fault party coming up with that rather than let go through an insurance claim seems slim
Which leaves the 'hit and run' possibility, but that seems unlikely from the description of the accident
So why would the owner not have their own insurance cover the repair - third party cover only?
I'd say the proper way to do that is go the full works and do it properly. Body off chassis restoration, sort out any other bits and get the body repaired. So thats £10k plus but you would have a good car then, subject to the condition of the SP6 engine.So the chances of the at fault party coming up with that rather than let go through an insurance claim seems slim
Which leaves the 'hit and run' possibility, but that seems unlikely from the description of the accident
So why would the owner not have their own insurance cover the repair - third party cover only?
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