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Most people know that the hard shoulder is a dangerous place to be, more so if you attempt to repair something, so I was somewhat surprised when on the M3 this morning I saw someone changing a tyre in a live lane of the M3.

Bare in mind that the M3 is currently being converted to a smart motorway, so the westbound carriageway currently has three westbound lanes and one eastbound lane on it, there is no hard shoulder, his arse is actually in lane 1. He's less than fifty meters from the J4 exit (you can see the traffic cones marking the start of the slip road) which makes his decision to attempt a repair in a free recovery area even more shortsighted. Dumbest thing I seen on the motorway in some time.
Bare in mind that the M3 is currently being converted to a smart motorway, so the westbound carriageway currently has three westbound lanes and one eastbound lane on it, there is no hard shoulder, his arse is actually in lane 1. He's less than fifty meters from the J4 exit (you can see the traffic cones marking the start of the slip road) which makes his decision to attempt a repair in a free recovery area even more shortsighted. Dumbest thing I seen on the motorway in some time.
Being in an Emergency refuge area didn't help this poor beggar much 
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-3102...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-3102...
speedyguy said:
Being in an Emergency refuge area didn't help this poor beggar much 
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-3102...
Hell's teeth.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-3102...
It almost looks like he drove AT him
Poor AA man - hope he makes a good recovery.
gforceg said:
I can't help noticing the Jag indicating right while drifting left.
Probably indicating right as soon as he saw the obstruction, but then noticed a vehicle approaching on the right so realised he couldn't make the lane change. I think you have to give the driver the benefit of the doubt when they're trying to avoid a human in the carriageway!
Only had to stop on the hard shoulder once and it was a horrible experience. Last time I had a puncture I was on the M2, loads of spray, decided to limp the car a couple of miles up to the Faversham turning to get out of the way rather than sit there. Wrecked the tyre but at the end of the day I'd rather pay £75 for a new tyre than get hit by some moron in a HGV.
Changed a few tyres on the shoulder over the years. Why is it always the off side? If I'm with anyone, I have them watch the traffic the whole time. Not so easy when you're on your own but I still spend as much time as possible looking up the carriage way and never have my back to it. I make sure I'm not kneeling down either so if I do have to move quickly I can. There is worse though, try the hard shoulder on a deristricted autobahn.
I'm dead against these managed motorways tbh. The highways can't manage themselves let alone a motorway. The number of times I now drive the M25 at 40mph for an incident that's never there with lorries swerving around me as they continue on their limiter. Stupid idea in my opinion.
That AA man is lucky to be alive but it looks like its proper f
ked him up - still can't work etc
I'm dead against these managed motorways tbh. The highways can't manage themselves let alone a motorway. The number of times I now drive the M25 at 40mph for an incident that's never there with lorries swerving around me as they continue on their limiter. Stupid idea in my opinion.
That AA man is lucky to be alive but it looks like its proper f
ked him up - still can't work etcGixer said:
Changed a few tyres on the shoulder over the years. Why is it always the off side? If I'm with anyone, I have them watch the traffic the whole time. Not so easy when you're on your own but I still spend as much time as possible looking up the carriage way and never have my back to it. I make sure I'm not kneeling down either so if I do have to move quickly I can. There is worse though, try the hard shoulder on a deristricted autobahn.
I'm dead against these managed motorways tbh. The highways can't manage themselves let alone a motorway. The number of times I now drive the M25 at 40mph for an incident that's never there with lorries swerving around me as they continue on their limiter. Stupid idea in my opinion.
That AA man is lucky to be alive but it looks like its proper f
ked him up - still can't work etc
A few deaths and someone will have the bright idea of undoing the whole managed motorway thing and just adding extra lanes like they should have in the first place. This is what you get when you do something on the cheap, a bad job and a load more money spent in the long run doing a proper job to follow it up.I'm dead against these managed motorways tbh. The highways can't manage themselves let alone a motorway. The number of times I now drive the M25 at 40mph for an incident that's never there with lorries swerving around me as they continue on their limiter. Stupid idea in my opinion.
That AA man is lucky to be alive but it looks like its proper f
ked him up - still can't work etcBlakewater said:
A few deaths and someone will have the bright idea of undoing the whole managed motorway thing and just adding extra lanes like they should have in the first place.
There's already a few deaths on the HS stop scaremongering ?There was massive opposition to the widening of the M25,
What is your 'sensible' alternative suggestion for widening the M25,M60,M6 thru Brum.
Most killed on the HS are killed by the inattention of others.
Double stack them as they do in other countries. One layer one direction, the other layer the opposite direction. Oh look that's fixed the people slowing down to rubber neck issue too.
You are of course right. There's already deaths on the hard shoulder, a lane nobody is supposed to be in. How would you like to break down on a live inside lane on a badly managed motorway with no hard shoulder? He's hardly scaremongering, just pointing out the obvious.
You are of course right. There's already deaths on the hard shoulder, a lane nobody is supposed to be in. How would you like to break down on a live inside lane on a badly managed motorway with no hard shoulder? He's hardly scaremongering, just pointing out the obvious.
Mafffew said:
55palfers said:
Hell's teeth.
It almost looks like he drove AT him
Poor AA man - hope he makes a good recovery.
I would definitely say he did. What the complete and utter It almost looks like he drove AT him
Poor AA man - hope he makes a good recovery.
is wrong with him?
tEdited by irocfan on Friday 30th January 14:36
Edited by irocfan on Friday 30th January 14:36
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