What an utter waste.
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andygo

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7,407 posts

286 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Following on from this thread:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


Have a look at this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11380406/Ro...

Go on then, I'll give you triple the scrap value and promise to scrap it when I have finished with it and no comebacks..

robertrobertson

60 posts

142 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Dam I thought this thread would be about lesbian 's lol !

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

216 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Insanity! Surely they could sell them off at auction or something, with a reduced warranty or similar?!

750turbo

6,164 posts

255 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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I reckon those are going straight in the bin to be honest! (Shame)

The OEM will not be hassled with any potential issues in the future, and I am sure they will be covered by the shops Insurance.

Dog Star

17,633 posts

199 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Ridiculous, and an indication of the sort of society we live in.

I'm no raving eco-nut, but to destroy all those perfectly good vehicles is just madness. What a wasteful world we live in.

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

161 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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They won't go straight to the scrap heap, they will have the interior, engines etc taken out and re ised. The body shells will be recycled into new things.

Cemesis

771 posts

193 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Sold as seen for parts, no warranty given or implied with 20 pages of legal explanation and that's got to be enough. If they scrap £35 million worth of cars for that then the whole process needs an overhaul

xxChrisxx

538 posts

152 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Cemesis said:
Sold as seen for parts, no warranty given or implied with 20 pages of legal explanation and that's got to be enough. If they scrap £35 million worth of cars for that then the whole process needs an overhaul
It'll come of the transporters insurance, at which point the car companies will recover 100% of the value. Selling them to someone cheap means less considerably lower than 100% value, combined with still having liability. Manufacturers can't do 'sold as seen'.

Shame, but it does make perfect sense.

kambites

71,636 posts

252 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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I guess they'll end up as cat-A write-offs. Utterly daft.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

294 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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xxChrisxx said:
Cemesis said:
Sold as seen for parts, no warranty given or implied with 20 pages of legal explanation and that's got to be enough. If they scrap £35 million worth of cars for that then the whole process needs an overhaul
It'll come of the transporters insurance, at which point the car companies will recover 100% of the value. Selling them to someone cheap means less considerably lower than 100% value, combined with still having liability. Manufacturers can't do 'sold as seen'.

Shame, but it does make perfect sense.
But surely once the Boat's insurers have paid out - they will then own them and they will want to get as much of their money back as possible by putting them through a salvage auction.

kambites

71,636 posts

252 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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V8RX7 said:
But surely once the Boat's insurers have paid out - they will then own them and they will want to get as much of their money back as possible by putting them through a salvage auction.
I wonder if it'll be written into the contract that they can't? I certainly can't see Rolls Royce being keen on having even a handful of cars out there which have been sitting in just about the worst possible conditions for creating rust.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

297 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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No parts will be re-used, all into the recycling bin. Just not worth the potential hassle of future claims.

Certainly not worth the man-hours to strip them down, and try to get the parts back onto the production line, it really isn't. The only other possible option is for them to be recycled as donor cars for test and development, but thats a helluva fleet to find storage for!

Kaj91

4,705 posts

152 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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This is a non story, these cars will be sold on.

sday12

5,068 posts

242 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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No they won't.

Saw loads of cars crushed at Ford when they had been fitted with one development part.

Not worth the comeback, legalities and tax issues mean dispose of.

Sump

5,512 posts

198 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Far cheaper to dispose.

996TT02

3,342 posts

171 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Deliberately misleading newspaper headline.

Next.


Kaj91

4,705 posts

152 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Keep and eye on Copart, SWS, etc. They will definitely be sold on, there is nothing wrong with most of them.

mcford

819 posts

205 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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They'll get the insurance money, they'll make some more cars which they can sell without fear of getting sued or those cars having higher than normal warranty costs and keep their reputation intact.

They'll scrap those cars ensuring that none of them or their component parts get sold, thus ensuring their parts operations sales.

They'd be risking alot more than any financial loss between the cost and insurance payout if they didn't scrap them.


Martin4x4

6,506 posts

163 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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I think "crushing" is media speculation, built on miss understanding the manufacturers writing them off. They will not want them to going to the original customers and will be paid out by the insurance company. The original customers will get replacements and JLR etc have what amounts to few extra sales.

However once title on the written off vehicles has passed to the insurance company they will do what they usually do and dispose of them through auctions.

xxChrisxx

538 posts

152 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Martin4x4 said:
I think "crushing" is media speculation, built on miss understanding the manufacturers writing them off. They will not want them to going to the original customers and will be paid out by the insurance company. The original customers will get replacements and JLR etc have what amounts to few extra sales.

However once title on the written off vehicles has passed to the insurance company they will do what they usually do and dispose of them through auctions.
I'd be inclined to believe that JLR products may be sold on. There is no chance that Rolls Royce will allow them to be sold on. When your brand values are built around perfection and exclusivity, it wouldn't make sense to let a bunch of now sullied goods into the open market.