Buying more holiday?
Discussion
Morning 
Not sure if this has been answered before but a bit of background anyway.
Really enjoy my job (most of the time...
), pays well and some nice perks but the one thing that really bugs me is holiday entitlement - 20 days. It's not enough for what me and the missus want to do - she is a NHS shift worker so has something like 37 days to choose from, obviously bank holidays are included in that but it means come March she has a week off at home doing nothing because I'm at work.
I was curious to know if anyone had any success buying more annual leave - it's a small company of 12 people. Obviously I don't want something for nothing and will take a pay cut. There is no policy for this sort of thing.
What would the powerfully built company directors here do if one of their staff asked?
Not sure if this has been answered before but a bit of background anyway.
Really enjoy my job (most of the time...
), pays well and some nice perks but the one thing that really bugs me is holiday entitlement - 20 days. It's not enough for what me and the missus want to do - she is a NHS shift worker so has something like 37 days to choose from, obviously bank holidays are included in that but it means come March she has a week off at home doing nothing because I'm at work.I was curious to know if anyone had any success buying more annual leave - it's a small company of 12 people. Obviously I don't want something for nothing and will take a pay cut. There is no policy for this sort of thing.
What would the powerfully built company directors here do if one of their staff asked?
I'd be looking at your work record to see if you were normally reliable, conscientious and an asset to the company. Assuming that gets answered "yes", I'd be asking you how often you plan to take this extra holiday, how you suggest we cover your work if we allow the extra time off and how you'll catch up when you get back.
If you give satisfactory answers, then I'd probably OK it as long as it wasn't going to cause me problems with the other staff.
If you give satisfactory answers, then I'd probably OK it as long as it wasn't going to cause me problems with the other staff.
I would be asking the company if you could make up time using flexitime and or working weekends and try a compromise.
I would have to assume your work is good though as I would not give that option to someone that I don't believe will make the time up, or who are just turning up and doing the minimum work to get by.
I would have to assume your work is good though as I would not give that option to someone that I don't believe will make the time up, or who are just turning up and doing the minimum work to get by.
TheHound said:
If you're full time, statutory minimum is 28 days per annum.
I assume your quoted is 20 days is then plus the 8 bank holidays.
That statutory minimum must include the bank hols?I assume your quoted is 20 days is then plus the 8 bank holidays.
I get 25 but we were, for one year only, offered the opportunity to purchase up to 5 days additional. This was during the credit crunch and the
I get 20 days I can choose, 8 bank hols, 2 days over christmas and my birthday. So its 23+8 really but I can't choose 11 of them.
I can't really make the time up as I'm not paid for overtime. I might just ask and see what the response is - I don't think it is a particularly unreasonable thing to ask. there's 3 of us doing the same job role so it's not as if someone would have to cover my work
I can't really make the time up as I'm not paid for overtime. I might just ask and see what the response is - I don't think it is a particularly unreasonable thing to ask. there's 3 of us doing the same job role so it's not as if someone would have to cover my work
CAPP0 said:
That statutory minimum must include the bank hols?
I get 25 but we were, for one year only, offered the opportunity to purchase up to 5 days additional. This was during the credit crunch and thecompany massive, 500,000 employee international corporation openly stated that they could do with the money!
Statutory minimum is 5.6 x days a week worked i.e work 5 days a week is 5x 5.6 =28 days in total. I get 25 but we were, for one year only, offered the opportunity to purchase up to 5 days additional. This was during the credit crunch and the
It depends on your contract whether you have to work the bank holiday or not but if you have the bank holidays off these can be included in the 28 minimum.
https://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights/enti...
Smiley198700 said:
I get 20 days I can choose, 8 bank hols, 2 days over christmas and my birthday. So its 23+8 really but I can't choose 11 of them.
I can't really make the time up as I'm not paid for overtime.
I don't really understand your comment here, surely if you work 3 "extra" days on a weekend you would get these back by having an "extra" 3 days holiday. At least this is what the other poster was suggesting. You would not have been paid any more but also you wouldn't have worked anymore. I can't really make the time up as I'm not paid for overtime.
Edited by TheHound on Monday 2nd February 15:36
marshalla said:
Are you saying there's more staff than needed ? As in someone's redundant ?
No not at all - 3 of us do the same job, its not as if me having a few more days off would put anyone out...Weekend work is sort of an option although it doesn't come up very often. Plus I don't want to work any extra days to make up for having some off
The missus does cook/clean which is nice when she's got her week off...
Would much rather spend it abroad/up the pub/gardening/etc though... 
Smiley198700 said:
marshalla said:
Are you saying there's more staff than needed ? As in someone's redundant ?
No not at all - 3 of us do the same job, its not as if me having a few more days off would put anyone out...Weekend work is sort of an option although it doesn't come up very often. Plus I don't want to work any extra days to make up for having some off
The missus does cook/clean which is nice when she's got her week off...
Would much rather spend it abroad/up the pub/gardening/etc though... I know contractors that would rather not take holiday then lose the equivalent of £500-800 per day, meaning a 2 week holiday already has cost them £4000 - £6400 before they have even paid for the holiday itself.
Du1point8 said:
So you would rather buy them for your day rate instead of work a saturday instead to pay them back? Strange, unless its not much money.
I know contractors that would rather not take holiday then lose the equivalent of £500-800 per day, meaning a 2 week holiday already has cost them £4000 - £6400 before they have even paid for the holiday itself.
Yes I know it sounds strange but it's what I'd rather do I know contractors that would rather not take holiday then lose the equivalent of £500-800 per day, meaning a 2 week holiday already has cost them £4000 - £6400 before they have even paid for the holiday itself.
My pay is £127/day before any deductions. I make it something like £53 a month for an extra 5 days off (unless its not as simple as day rate*days you want off/12?)Smiley198700 said:
No not at all - 3 of us do the same job, its not as if me having a few more days off would put anyone out...
That really does sound, to me, as there isn't enough work to go round. You're saying that one of you can go off for a week and it won't cause any problems, create any delays or create any sort of backlog ? marshalla said:
That really does sound, to me, as there isn't enough work to go round. You're saying that one of you can go off for a week and it won't cause any problems, create any delays or create any sort of backlog ?
No. That would cause issues. But they're not going to grant a weeks annual leave with no notice. People give enough notice for holidays so it can nearly always be accommodated. What I'm trying to say is from what I can see me having an extra 5 days wouldn't put anyone else out...I know of people who have forgone pay rises to get the extra days of holiday.
It all amounts to the same thing, however I'd start by explaining the situation and asking if there is anything that can be done to bring your holiday entitlement up to the level of your wife's etc.
Don't offer to sacrifice salary - let them propose the solution.
It all amounts to the same thing, however I'd start by explaining the situation and asking if there is anything that can be done to bring your holiday entitlement up to the level of your wife's etc.
Don't offer to sacrifice salary - let them propose the solution.
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