Anyone know about NEBOSH stuff?
Discussion
I have spent the last year offshore in an admin role working on dive projects and I am considering taking a NEBOSH course to increase my chances of further employment.
So, I have a few questions.
Ultimately, I guess I need the Oil and Gas NEBOSH certificate, and they suggest that you should probably take the International course and then the Oil and Gas one, unless you're already familiar with offshore health and safety.
I am now curious, if I had the oil and gas cert, would potential employers care if I had the international one as well?
I also looking for opinions from people ,whether they think that a year offshore would have given me enough exposure to HSE that I would have enough of a grounding that I would be able to keep up if I just went straight for the Oil and gas cert.
Also, does any of it matter, I would only have the certificate, but no professional experience in HSE, would any employer touch me even if I did have the right Certs. With the industry the way it is, I imagine there are loads of qualified and experienced HSE guys queuing up for jobs...
Any advice welcomed!
So, I have a few questions.
Ultimately, I guess I need the Oil and Gas NEBOSH certificate, and they suggest that you should probably take the International course and then the Oil and Gas one, unless you're already familiar with offshore health and safety.
I am now curious, if I had the oil and gas cert, would potential employers care if I had the international one as well?
I also looking for opinions from people ,whether they think that a year offshore would have given me enough exposure to HSE that I would have enough of a grounding that I would be able to keep up if I just went straight for the Oil and gas cert.
Also, does any of it matter, I would only have the certificate, but no professional experience in HSE, would any employer touch me even if I did have the right Certs. With the industry the way it is, I imagine there are loads of qualified and experienced HSE guys queuing up for jobs...
Any advice welcomed!
Shuvi McTupya said:
I have spent the last year offshore in an admin role working on dive projects and I am considering taking a NEBOSH course to increase my chances of further employment.
So, I have a few questions.
Ultimately, I guess I need the Oil and Gas NEBOSH certificate, and they suggest that you should probably take the International course and then the Oil and Gas one, unless you're already familiar with offshore health and safety.
I am now curious, if I had the oil and gas cert, would potential employers care if I had the international one as well?
I also looking for opinions from people ,whether they think that a year offshore would have given me enough exposure to HSE that I would have enough of a grounding that I would be able to keep up if I just went straight for the Oil and gas cert.
Also, does any of it matter, I would only have the certificate, but no professional experience in HSE, would any employer touch me even if I did have the right Certs. With the industry the way it is, I imagine there are loads of qualified and experienced HSE guys queuing up for jobs...
Any advice welcomed!
Have you been working on fixed installations or diving vessels, in either case you need to speak to the Senior safety guys they will be the font of all knowledge in this respect.
Have a look on the job sites for what the employers are looking for, experience, areas of knowledge and certification needed.
So, I have a few questions.
Ultimately, I guess I need the Oil and Gas NEBOSH certificate, and they suggest that you should probably take the International course and then the Oil and Gas one, unless you're already familiar with offshore health and safety.
I am now curious, if I had the oil and gas cert, would potential employers care if I had the international one as well?
I also looking for opinions from people ,whether they think that a year offshore would have given me enough exposure to HSE that I would have enough of a grounding that I would be able to keep up if I just went straight for the Oil and gas cert.
Also, does any of it matter, I would only have the certificate, but no professional experience in HSE, would any employer touch me even if I did have the right Certs. With the industry the way it is, I imagine there are loads of qualified and experienced HSE guys queuing up for jobs...
Any advice welcomed!
Have you been working on fixed installations or diving vessels, in either case you need to speak to the Senior safety guys they will be the font of all knowledge in this respect.
Have a look on the job sites for what the employers are looking for, experience, areas of knowledge and certification needed.
I have worked on a Floating Production Vessel and a Dive Vessel but no longer work with the company. I am trying to get info from one of them through FB but i thought i would just see if anyone on here might be able to give me some guidance.
I have had a quick look at HSE positions being advertised and so far I am not seeing much in the way of people looking for newly certified people with no HSE experience
I have had a quick look at HSE positions being advertised and so far I am not seeing much in the way of people looking for newly certified people with no HSE experience
It's a positive that you already have the offshore exposure as that's what a lot of companies are looking for. Any Nebosh course isn't a breeze as they are very precise in their requirements. But it's achievable with a bit of studying.
What knowledge of safety and the legislation do you have??
What knowledge of safety and the legislation do you have??
Normally as a pre-requisite for most topic specific NEBOSH Courses, you have to have completed your NEBOSH General Certificate within the last 5 years.
The general is very basic, and gives you an overview of UK H&S legislation. I'd normally overlook people with just this qualification for anything other than the most junior roles.
If you have this qualification you can do more specific elements such as the environmental / construction / O&G certificates and then you become a bit more employable.
A lot candidates with NVQ5 qualifications I find to be a waste of time, this is just basically collating evidence if already in a role. Most of the evidence I have seen people collate they typically have had nothing to do with producing, so a complete waste of time. For me the NVQ5 serves no purpose other than to get GradIOSH membership of IOSH if that is what floats your boat (excuse the pun).
If you really want to be taken seriously then the NEBOSH Diploma is a tough qualification, and I have respect for anyone who has taken the time and effort to do this. Particularly if they have done it whilst in full time employment. It requires proper coursework, proper exams and a proper dissertation. None of which will really help in the real world but show commitment to being an EHS Professional... rather than someone who just wants to do any NEBOSH course to make a quick buck.
The general is very basic, and gives you an overview of UK H&S legislation. I'd normally overlook people with just this qualification for anything other than the most junior roles.
If you have this qualification you can do more specific elements such as the environmental / construction / O&G certificates and then you become a bit more employable.
A lot candidates with NVQ5 qualifications I find to be a waste of time, this is just basically collating evidence if already in a role. Most of the evidence I have seen people collate they typically have had nothing to do with producing, so a complete waste of time. For me the NVQ5 serves no purpose other than to get GradIOSH membership of IOSH if that is what floats your boat (excuse the pun).
If you really want to be taken seriously then the NEBOSH Diploma is a tough qualification, and I have respect for anyone who has taken the time and effort to do this. Particularly if they have done it whilst in full time employment. It requires proper coursework, proper exams and a proper dissertation. None of which will really help in the real world but show commitment to being an EHS Professional... rather than someone who just wants to do any NEBOSH course to make a quick buck.
lewes said:
It's a positive that you already have the offshore exposure as that's what a lot of companies are looking for. Any Nebosh course isn't a breeze as they are very precise in their requirements. But it's achievable with a bit of studying.
What knowledge of safety and the legislation do you have??
I guess I only have exposure to it as an offshore worker. I am not clued up on the actual regulations but I would imagine some of it will click it into place as I am learning because I will have come across the terminology before.What knowledge of safety and the legislation do you have??
I have sat in on risk assessments and safety meetings etc, that's about it
Edited by Shuvi McTupya on Thursday 5th February 14:46
GSP said:
Normally as a pre-requisite for most topic specific NEBOSH Courses, you have to have completed your NEBOSH General Certificate within the last 5 years.
The general is very basic, and gives you an overview of UK H&S legislation. I'd normally overlook people with just this qualification for anything other than the most junior roles.
If you have this qualification you can do more specific elements such as the environmental / construction / O&G certificates and then you become a bit more employable.
The training advisor I have spoken to suggested that the International Nebosh course was a good one, and also tried to convince me that 90% of people who pass that course find employment quite quickly. I took it with a pinch of salt though as her job was to sell courses. she actually didn't work for the training company, she worked for an employment agency who act as an agent for the training company. She phoned me up after i clicked a link on the agency website. I Very quickly discovered that the course she was wanting to book me on would cost me £830 if i booked it through her, and only £500 if i went directly to the Nebosh place. I figured i should ignore her advice and come an ask here The general is very basic, and gives you an overview of UK H&S legislation. I'd normally overlook people with just this qualification for anything other than the most junior roles.
If you have this qualification you can do more specific elements such as the environmental / construction / O&G certificates and then you become a bit more employable.
GSP said:
A lot candidates with NVQ5 qualifications I find to be a waste of time, this is just basically collating evidence if already in a role. Most of the evidence I have seen people collate they typically have had nothing to do with producing, so a complete waste of time. For me the NVQ5 serves no purpose other than to get GradIOSH membership of IOSH if that is what floats your boat (excuse the pun).
If you really want to be taken seriously then the NEBOSH Diploma is a tough qualification, and I have respect for anyone who has taken the time and effort to do this. Particularly if they have done it whilst in full time employment. It requires proper coursework, proper exams and a proper dissertation. None of which will really help in the real world but show commitment to being an EHS Professional... rather than someone who just wants to do any NEBOSH course to make a quick buck.
I am surprised that you would consider an NVQ5 as not worth having, I imagine it would take a while to go through NVQ 1-5 ? I am only guessing as I have never really looked at the NVQ system.If you really want to be taken seriously then the NEBOSH Diploma is a tough qualification, and I have respect for anyone who has taken the time and effort to do this. Particularly if they have done it whilst in full time employment. It requires proper coursework, proper exams and a proper dissertation. None of which will really help in the real world but show commitment to being an EHS Professional... rather than someone who just wants to do any NEBOSH course to make a quick buck.
The NEBOSH diploma does like it is more than I was hoping to have to do in order to get myself my first Job, but definitely something I would consider doing to work my way up, once in.
Thanks for your advice, I will have a mooch around and see whether it looks practical to take the general NEBOSH and then a more specific one afterwards. I am currently not working and wouldn't get any assistance with the costs so that is definitely a consideration, I would rather spend my money wisely than waste my time and money on courses that nobody actually cares about!
Any Nebosh qualification is good but it is only has any merit with the attitude and knowledge of the person holding it.
I would do one of the basic ones first, then you can see if your mind works that way. The diploma is a highly regarded qualification but be prepared to put your life on hold for 18 months as it is intense.
The nvq route is okay but I would do one of the nebosh courses first and maybe the nvq as a top up. I would avoid distance or e-learning as there are many ways to look at some legislation subject to your knowledge and experience.
I have some past nebosh papers if you want to have a look
I would do one of the basic ones first, then you can see if your mind works that way. The diploma is a highly regarded qualification but be prepared to put your life on hold for 18 months as it is intense.
The nvq route is okay but I would do one of the nebosh courses first and maybe the nvq as a top up. I would avoid distance or e-learning as there are many ways to look at some legislation subject to your knowledge and experience.
I have some past nebosh papers if you want to have a look
OP, a good source of knowledge and guidance can be found at the IOSH forums, www.iosh.co.uk, create an account and ask the same question there, lots of O&G safety bods around.
I work in safety for an Oil company but onshore (and downstream for that matter) so not sure how much importance is placed on NEBOSH in that area.
I've a feeling experience is more important than quals, the common route is via ops into a safety rep type role, then the worlds your oyster once you have some experience.
As an aside, you can't go wrong with NEBOSH as its universally recognised, however you may want to look at process safety qualifications e.g HAZOP / HAZID etc as that's more pertinent to upstream.
I work in safety for an Oil company but onshore (and downstream for that matter) so not sure how much importance is placed on NEBOSH in that area.
I've a feeling experience is more important than quals, the common route is via ops into a safety rep type role, then the worlds your oyster once you have some experience.
As an aside, you can't go wrong with NEBOSH as its universally recognised, however you may want to look at process safety qualifications e.g HAZOP / HAZID etc as that's more pertinent to upstream.
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