Compulsory Overall 30mph Speed Limit
Compulsory Overall 30mph Speed Limit
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Vanin

Original Poster:

1,022 posts

197 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Just looked at my average speed for a 50 mile slog through average traffic and roadworks, came out at 29mph.
Going 60 and 70 where possible but rarely because of congestion.

If you had an overall 30 limit (speed limiters on vehicles making it physically impossible to exceed) there would be the following advantages

1.Far less accidents and injuries, taking pressure off the NHS, legal system, insurance etc.and general reduction in human misery.

2. Cars built with maximum safety, economy and comfort. Less aerodynamic compromises

3. Perhaps more actual traffic flow due to closing spaces between vehicles as discovered on M25 when they reduced the speed to 50 mph.

4. Puts pressure on the government to come up with a really efficient and cheap public transport system.

5. Huge saving in countrywide fuel usage as well as reduced pollution, would help to advance the electric vehicles.

As a concession I would increase the number of race tracks around the country dedicated to Pistonheaders!

J4CKO

47,011 posts

231 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I am sure "Human Misery" would increase having to do 30 mph on a clear motorway.


randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Either you are not familiar with the concept of average speed, or you are a bit of a tit. Charitably, I would explain that periods of stillness (lights, queues etc) will bring down an average so that nice stretch at 60 doesn't do much to bring the average back up. Having a max of thirty will mean your average is now 15 mph. And is that your next target?

Besides which, much better to teach children, cyclists and pedestrians that cars hurt - stay away from them smile

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

171 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Aren't you going to be late for the BRAKE morning strategy meeting?

Clearly you live somewhere too congested. I respectfully demand that you remain there and remind your brain to shut up.

glosaircool

22 posts

145 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Maybe where you live, but in Gloucestershire average speeds far in excess of 30mph can be achieved in safety. Also why would car manufacturers bother radically redesigning their cars to such an extent to optimise their vehicles for such an extreme niche.

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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randlemarcus said:
Either you are not familiar with the concept of average speed, or you are a bit of a tit. Charitably, I would explain that periods of stillness (lights, queues etc) will bring down an average so that nice stretch at 60 doesn't do much to bring the average back up. Having a max of thirty will mean your average is now 15 mph. And is that your next target?

Besides which, much better to teach children, cyclists and pedestrians that cars hurt - stay away from them smile
Quite. And also teach children some basic maths, eg some stuff about averages might help.

PaulD86

1,844 posts

157 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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randlemarcus said:
Either you are not familiar with the concept of average speed, or you are a bit of a tit.
laugh

daytona111r

911 posts

235 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Vanin said:
Just looked at my average speed for a 50 mile slog through average traffic and roadworks, came out at 29mph.
Going 60 and 70 where possible but rarely because of congestion.

If you had an overall 30 limit (speed limiters on vehicles making it physically impossible to exceed) there would be the following advantages

1.Far less accidents and injuries, taking pressure off the NHS, legal system, insurance etc.and general reduction in human misery.

2. Cars built with maximum safety, economy and comfort. Less aerodynamic compromises

3. Perhaps more actual traffic flow due to closing spaces between vehicles as discovered on M25 when they reduced the speed to 50 mph.

4. Puts pressure on the government to come up with a really efficient and cheap public transport system.

5. Huge saving in countrywide fuel usage as well as reduced pollution, would help to advance the electric vehicles.

As a concession I would increase the number of race tracks around the country dedicated to Pistonheaders!
You are a tit, and clearly haven't thought properly about what you have written.

Monkeylegend

29,540 posts

262 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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And now for a party political broadcast from the Brake party.

HenryJM

6,315 posts

160 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Why would you compare a maximum speed with an average speed? They two are totally different items.

Leins

10,497 posts

179 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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How did you come up with point 4?

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

171 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Leins said:
How did you come up with point 4?
Because public transport is fairly unfit for purpose and massively time-inefficient.

By hamstringing private transport to be equally incompatible with modern lifestyles, public transport would appear slightly less like flogging a dead horse.

Swanny87

1,265 posts

150 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Trolling assessment:

Good effort, you need to work on your subtlety a bit though. 6/10, apply yourself!!!!

RedAlfa

480 posts

215 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I understand where the OP is coming from, but I think 30mph would be ball-achingly slow on longer journies :-P. Couriers and haulage firms
would disappear very quickly!

j80jpw

829 posts

193 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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My 6 hour run up to Scotland averaging 70 ish would take more than double the time, id probably fall asleep at the wheel after 1/2 and hour of driving at 30mph through sheer boredom, crash and cause a traffic jam... not a very well though out suggestion.

peterg1955

746 posts

195 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Two hours in and still nobody has said it should be 'far fewer accidents etc...' not 'less'...

shame on you PHers laugh

BugLebowski

1,037 posts

147 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Or how about you don't apply your incredibly specific example to the whole country? Plenty of empty roads here.

Warnie

1,441 posts

230 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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CHRIST.

nikaiyo2

5,975 posts

226 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Vanin said:
4. Puts pressure on the government to come up with a really efficient and cheap public transport system.
Ignoring the rest of your spouting, how can public transport be efficient out of the big cities? Lets look at who uses pubic transport

Guardian Readers that are not in their 911- fk that don't want to be infected with lentil fart smells or sanctimonious tutting.

Old people that are not in their Jazzes- fk that don't want to smell of pee or Palma Violets before I get to work.

Scratters- fk that I don't like watching the Jeremy Kyle show so why would I sit in it? Also the stink of rollies and skunk makes me feel ill in the morning.

School Kids- fk that.

People like you- fk that.



Vanin said:
5. Huge saving in countrywide fuel usage as well as reduced pollution, would help to advance the electric vehicles.
Why would anyone want to get into an electrical vehicle, they terrify me on 2 fronts, surely its only a matter of time before they burn the garage down and secondly if we end up with loads of EV's in cities the amount killed and injured will skyrocket, negating your savings to the NHS.


RobM77

35,349 posts

265 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I'd be looking for new work, a new hobby and new holiday destinations...

Work: I currently have a 36 mile commute each way to work that takes me 40 minutes. At 30mph it'd take 1hr12min - that's nearly two and a half hours in the car everyday, which would be too much for my back and sanity I think.

Hobbies: My weekly windsurfing trips to the coast would take two and a quarter hours each way. Cadwell Park would be six and a half hours away...

Holdays: A drive to our favourite spot in the Lake District for a long weekend would take over 9 hours! More scarily, our planned euro road trip this year would involve 67 hours of solid driving eek

Less selfishly, I think the impact on the economy would be fairly severe, with road haulage times almost doubling.