RE: Audi TT Roadster: Driven
RE: Audi TT Roadster: Driven
Friday 6th February 2015

2015 Audi TT Roadster (Mk3) | Review

Openly sporty shades at the ready for a drive in the new TT cabrio



Don't be fooled by the press images here. Majorca at the start of February was a total washout. Bitterly cold, horribly wet and incessantly windy, it was not a great day for testing a new cabriolet. But for driving a new Audi quattro, with the promise of "some oversteer in some situations" from Dr Hackenberg himself? Now we have a story.

So unfortunately I can tell you nothing about the TT Roadster roof down. I couldn't even tell you where the roof button is in all honesty, it really was that wet. A promo film featuring one openly sporty gent and a very sunny Majorca reminded all in attendance that the fabric roof can be raised or lowered in 10 seconds at up to 31mph. The luggage capacity is 280 litres in either configuration. It can also be stated with considerable authority that the roof does not leak.

A day with the TT Roadster in coupe form does show it to be very refined though. Having not driven a coupe yet it's impossible to be conclusive but it would be surprising to find the cabrio significantly louder. The rain makes a gentle pitter patter on canvas rather than the tink-tink it would make on metal but otherwise all is well. There is perhaps a little more wind noise around the top of the windscreen than you might expect.


Ulrich Hackenberg's comments on the TT's dynamics should be further elaborated on. He was keen to stress the importance of neutrality on a sports car chassis, that too much understeer is a bad thing. Obvious perhaps but not always guaranteed with a fast Audi. Keys were distributed with Dr H adamant that we could "steer the car [TT S] on the gas." We like a challenge...

And you know what? It is possible. Look elsewhere for lurid 4WD antics but the TT Roadster isn't the borefest you may expect. Certainly the conditions helped; in the dry its purchase on the road would surely be unimpeachable but slippery Majorcan tarmac revealed a more playful side. Turn-in needn't be too aggressive but early application of the throttle will see the nose push on and then power distributed rearwards pretty swiftly. The traction control's Sport mode has a reasonably liberal threshold, allowing small dabs of corrective lock before intervening. Given the conditions everything off hardly seemed wise. Regardless, it was rather good fun. Dr Hackenberg was indeed right. Whatever next?

The rest of the dynamic package is a little more hit and miss. All TTs have Progressive Steering which means 'the ratio becomes more direct as the steering wheel is turned' and the assistance is varied. It's not as disconcerting as that may sound, the car never darting unexpectedly and also allowing hands to remains at nine and three'o'clock on the wheel almost the entire time. But (and you knew this was coming, didn't you?), it's always too light and never gives a great idea of what the road surface is doing. It doesn't detract significantly from the experience but the pervading artificialness of the steering doesn't enhance the TT either. Shame.


While we're on gripes it could be argued the powertrain isn't the most exciting for a sports car. Perhaps because it's so familiar from hot hatch installations the 2.0-litre turbo/six-speed DSG combo doesn't feel that special. Oh sure, it parps on upshifts, responds instantly to gear requests and does the requisite numbers but certain rivals are more engaging. In a sports car you want to chase every rev to wring out performance, surely? See Boxster and BRZ for example. With that great wad of torque from 1,800rpm there's no incentive to do that in the TT. Yes, it's an ideological grumble rather than any great mechanical flaw but for nearly £40,000 the engine can sometimes feel a little ordinary.

However, before this sounds like a tirade against the TT S, there remains plenty to like. It rides nicely, for example. Audi's magnetic dampers are standard on the S with all three modes (Auto, Comfort and Sport) usable on the road. The majority of the test route was very smooth but the TT dealt with imperfections well, retaining a commendable level of control and compliance throughout. The structure too feels admirably stiff too, with no sense of wobble or shake in our day on the road. It will be interesting to see the sales split between the coupe and Roadster because, on this test, there seems little sacrifice for your openly sporting aspirations.

The brakes aren't grabby, the driving position is good, the interior is fabulous and the outside looks great even when the roof has to stay up. All day. It's a predictably pleasant Audi. Quelle surprise.


And what of the other TTs? There was also opportunity to drive the TDI and TSI front-wheel drive models, the latter expected to be the biggest seller over here. Many were speculating on the TSI being the 'sweet spot' of the TT Roadster range and that may well be the case in the sunshine. In the rain the quattro S was noticeably more enjoyable though; the front-wheel drive cars don't have bad traction but they lack the fancy VAQ 'diff' and consequently rely on the electronics a little too much. Again, they will be fine for many customers without ever providing the most memorable drive. The diesel will surely prove very popular with its low CO2, plentiful torque and so on. Don't ever select the 'Dynamic' engine sound however. Yuck.

So the TT Roadster is playing to the strengths it has always possessed while adding a couple more dynamic strings to its bow. Enthusiasts will continue to look elsewhere for the best convertible thrills but as a year-round package it's now even harder to beat.


SPECIFICATION | 2015 AUDI TT S ROADSTER (Mk3)
Engine:
1,984cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, four-wheel drive (6-speed S Tronic dual-clutch optional)
Power (hp): 310@5,800-6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 280@1,800-5,700rpm
0-62mph: 5.2sec (4.9sec)
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,525kg (1,545kg, unladen weight plus 75kg driver)
MPG: 38.7 (40.9, NEDC combined)
CO2: 169g/km (159g/km)
Price: £41,085 (£42,455)
(Figures in brackets for S Tronic)

SPECIFICATION | 2015 AUDI TT TDI ULTRA ROADSTER (Mk3)
Engine:
1,968cc 4-cyl turbodiesel
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 184@3,500-4,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 280@1,750-3,250rpm
0-62mph: 7.3sec
Top speed: 147mph
Weight: 1,395kg (unladen weight plus 75kg driver)
MPG: 65.7 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 114g/km
Price: From £31,955

SPECIFICATION | 2015 AUDI TT TSI ROADSTER (Mk3)
Engine:
1,984cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive (6-speed S Tronic dual-clutch optional)
Power (hp): 230@4,500-6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 272@1,600-4,300rpm
0-62mph: 6.2sec (5.6sec)
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,395kg (1,500kg, unladen weight plus 75kg driver)
MPG: 47.1 (42.2, NEDC combined)
CO2: 140g/km (154g/km)
Price: From £32,045 (£35,055)
(Figures in brackets for S Tronic Quattro model. MPG for FWD car with 18-inch wheels, Quattro on 19s)






Author
Discussion

mrclav

Original Poster:

1,645 posts

254 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I'll always have a soft spot for these. I know, I know, they're not a Boxster but I actually find these new TT's very handsome.

Jakdaw

292 posts

241 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Errr...

article said:
Engine: 1,984cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, four-wheel drive (6-speed S Tronic dual-clutch optional)
Power (hp): 184@3,500-4,000rpm
MPG: 38.7 (40.9, NEDC combined)

Engine: 1,984cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive (6-speed S Tronic dual-clutch optional)
Power (hp): 230@4,500-6,200rpm
MPG: 47.1 (42.2, NEDC combined)
So the DCT 'box helps the fuel economy of the S, but ruins it in the TSI? Pull the other one.

GTEYE

2,505 posts

241 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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They obviously weren't looking for revolution with the styling changes from Mk2 to Mk3.

Other than the LED tinsel, it really looks like a mild facelift of the Mk2 rather than the all new car that it actually is.

Whilst it looks good now, I wonder if even TT diehards will not be slightly bored of it when they are still presumably churning them out in 6-7 years time.

Perhaps the 911 design department aren't as lazy as we might have thought....

Repent

388 posts

204 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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thecleverbit

40 posts

173 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I have a TT Coupe S-Line Quattro on order, which should be with me in the next week... As a former Boxster driver, I have to say it does not feel like a fair comparison. I sold the Boxster because it was happiest being pushed, and pushed hard, with plenty of back end wiggle even on top rubber. I actually found the driving experience tiring at times, there was no way to just kick back and chill. I have an Audi S3 track toy which is tiring enough, but at least it has grip to burn when the road is not perfect, the Porker had a habit of going all over the place when I didn't always want it to.

The attraction of the TT for me is the balance of usability and fun, not that I am old, boring or a snail on the road. My car will be pushed, and used properly. I just think comparing the Boxster to a TT Roadster is a bit of a misnomer, its more akin to the MX5, the TT is inevitably a compromise, but I would like to think its a more usable daily drive.

I just hope I am not eating my words and missing my Porsche when summer comes and I cant drop the top of my new car...

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

249 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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thecleverbit said:
I have a TT Coupe S-Line Quattro on order, which should be with me in the next week... As a former Boxster driver, I have to say it does not feel like a fair comparison. I sold the Boxster because it was happiest being pushed, and pushed hard, with plenty of back end wiggle even on top rubber. I actually found the driving experience tiring at times, there was no way to just kick back and chill. I have an Audi S3 track toy which is tiring enough, but at least it has grip to burn when the road is not perfect, the Porker had a habit of going all over the place when I didn't always want it to.

The attraction of the TT for me is the balance of usability and fun, not that I am old, boring or a snail on the road. My car will be pushed, and used properly. I just think comparing the Boxster to a TT Roadster is a bit of a misnomer, its more akin to the MX5, the TT is inevitably a compromise, but I would like to think its a more usable daily drive.

I just hope I am not eating my words and missing my Porsche when summer comes and I cant drop the top of my new car...
The quality of roads does indeed have a lot to answer for, some cars are great of billiard table smooth roads, but we have anything but that......

Matt Bird

1,554 posts

236 months

PH Reportery Lad

Friday 6th February 2015
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Jakdaw said:
Errr...

article said:
Engine: 1,984cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, four-wheel drive (6-speed S Tronic dual-clutch optional)
Power (hp): 184@3,500-4,000rpm
MPG: 38.7 (40.9, NEDC combined)

Engine: 1,984cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive (6-speed S Tronic dual-clutch optional)
Power (hp): 230@4,500-6,200rpm
MPG: 47.1 (42.2, NEDC combined)
So the DCT 'box helps the fuel economy of the S, but ruins it in the TSI? Pull the other one.
TSI is front-drive manual or four-wheel drive S Tronic only, hence MPG dropping. All TT S models are quattro. Apologies if there was any confusion!


Matt

redroadster

1,886 posts

263 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Styling is good build quality too reasonable price economical ticks lots of boxes.

firebird350

337 posts

211 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Is that quoted weight correct? Ok, I know it's 4WD but over 1500kg? Seems a bit on the heavy side to me. Does it 'feel' heavy to drive, I wonder?

unsprung

6,055 posts

155 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Repent said:
laugh

herebebeasties

754 posts

250 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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"Pervading artificialness" sounds exactly what you want out of the steering of your "sports car".

Struggling to see why you'd want one of these over a Golf R or an S3 or whatever, to be honest. Less practical, no quicker, and it's not even styled fairly nicely like they used to be. I'd go so far as to say I actually think it's ugly. :-/

Tannedbaldhead

3,213 posts

163 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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thecleverbit said:
I Boxster ....... was happiest being pushed, and pushed hard, with plenty of back end wiggle even on top rubber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83I9El6C47A

nickfrog

25,423 posts

248 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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thecleverbit said:
I have a TT Coupe S-Line Quattro on order, which should be with me in the next week... As a former Boxster driver, I have to say it does not feel like a fair comparison. I sold the Boxster because it was happiest being pushed, and pushed hard, with plenty of back end wiggle even on top rubber. I actually found the driving experience tiring at times, there was no way to just kick back and chill. I have an Audi S3 track toy which is tiring enough, but at least it has grip to burn when the road is not perfect, the Porker had a habit of going all over the place when I didn't always want it to.

The attraction of the TT for me is the balance of usability and fun, not that I am old, boring or a snail on the road. My car will be pushed, and used properly. I just think comparing the Boxster to a TT Roadster is a bit of a misnomer, its more akin to the MX5, the TT is inevitably a compromise, but I would like to think its a more usable daily drive.

I just hope I am not eating my words and missing my Porsche when summer comes and I cant drop the top of my new car...
I can't think of a more balanced and tractable chassis than the Boxster's. Almost too balanced. Each to their own though. 4wd road cars are indeed a god send for some.

Sampaio

377 posts

169 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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thecleverbit said:
I just think comparing the Boxster to a TT Roadster is a bit of a misnomer, its more akin to the MX5
Utter bks. An MX-5 is closer in spirit to a Boxster. A TT is roofless Golf.

Audi TT - heavy, front-wheel drive, turbocharged

Boxster and MX-5 - light, rear-wheel drive, naturally aspirated.

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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Isn't that what he said, that the Boxster is more akin to an MX5? That's how I read it...

Triumph Man

9,632 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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I wish people wouldn't refer to an Audi with 4 wheel drive as an "Audi quattro", and I certainly wouldn't expect PH to do it!

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,039 posts

266 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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Isn't it a convertible, not a cabriolet? wobble

cologne2792

2,151 posts

157 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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The diesel is 130 kg lighter than the TTS ?

tomjol

532 posts

148 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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Triumph Man said:
I wish people wouldn't refer to an Audi with 4 wheel drive as an "Audi quattro", and I certainly wouldn't expect PH to do it!
Couldn't agree more.

PunterCam

1,235 posts

226 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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545kg heavier than the new mx5. 50% heavier than the new mx5.

That's appalling.