Faulty Samsung UE55ES8000. House insurance won't cover it?!
Faulty Samsung UE55ES8000. House insurance won't cover it?!
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J381

Original Poster:

534 posts

212 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Looking for some advice...

I bought the above mentioned TV in 2012 from Currys and never opted for the extended warranty etc as I thought my house insurance would cover it.
Within the first 6 months vertical lines appeared on the TV so I called Samsung support and received a new screen - brilliant! All is well for another few months and then same again... Vertical lines.
Received another new screen as the first replacement is still within warranty.

TV has been working fine for quite some time and then it's just happened again!
Phoned Samsung and they said theres nothing they can do and told me to phone the repair company. Phoned them and they told me the last replacement is out of warranty so there's nothing they can do.

Decided to phone the house insurance. TV was collected and taken to the workshop for analysis... Just received the report today and they're saying it's due to wear and tear, and is not covered in the policy!!!

So I'm paying £50 per month on house insurance that I thought covers my then £3K TV, only to be told it's not covered!

What are my options now?
New screen - where from and how much?
New TV?
Would really appreciate any advice on this as I'm quite fked off with it all.

Mr Pointy

12,892 posts

183 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Why do you think you contents insurance covers an item breaking down? If you don't have the Accidental Damage extension it doesn't even cover you dropping it.

I don't think you understand what your insurance was for.

dave_s13

13,993 posts

293 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I thought house insurance is just buildings and contents. If it's nicked or damaged by external forces yo're covered. You can add on accidental cover for extra for, err, accidents. They don't have a product warranty cover though, do they?

You should have "accidentally" dropped your TV whilst moving it, it might have been replaced then.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

255 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Back to Samsung after doing a bit of research about how long a telly should last. Sales of Goods Act, how long a quality product should last etc etc. Be prepared to go all Daily Mail SadFace in the local paper.

Soov535

35,829 posts

295 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Why on earth do you think your house insurance covers your TV packing up?

FFS

lost in espace

6,487 posts

231 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Call whoever you bought it off and explain that it should last 6 years, sale of goods act or something google it. I got my money back from Tesco after 3 years on a microwave.

ms69

1 posts

134 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Have exactly the same tv, had exactly the same problem!
Board replaced, screen replaced by Samsung authorised repairer. Fault reappeared and this time they couldn't find any fault despite the engineer seeing it in action. I found this
http://support-us.samsung.com/nas/triage/symptom/1...
They then carried out necessary repair and it has been fine since.

Paul Drawmer

5,122 posts

291 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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J381 said:
Looking for some advice...

Decided to phone the house insurance. TV was collected and taken to the workshop for analysis... Just received the report today and they're saying it's due to wear and tear, and is not covered in the policy!!!

So I'm paying £50 per month on house insurance that I thought covers my then £3K TV, only to be told it's not covered!

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Your home insurance will normally cover you for certain events such as: Fire, flood, storm, impact, theft and maybe accidental damage.

It won't cover breakdown of any device, or anything that could be described as wear and tear. So don't expect your insurance to pay for a new carpet when the old one is worn out.

As you seem to be rather surprised by this, I suggest you read your policy carefully to see what is and what isn't covered.
You may find that there are conditions which you have to comply with. For example, some policies have a condition that says you MUST have all the downstairs windows locked with the keys removed when you are out or when you go to bed. Do check, or you may another surprise should you make a theft claim.

Not all home policies are the same, but I doubt if you will find one that covers your TV breakdown.

t400ble

1,804 posts

145 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Would you call your car insurer if your car wouldn't start one day?

glasgowrob

3,318 posts

145 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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should have dropped it "accidentally" when you were decorating

JustinP1

13,357 posts

254 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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J381 said:
Looking for some advice...

I bought the above mentioned TV in 2012 from Currys
Would really appreciate any advice on this as I'm quite fked off with it all.
I have excellent news for you my friend. This will make your day. Do this:

Phone KnowHow on 0344 561 1234. That's Curry's own repairers. Go through to the section about TVs.

The have a national centre where they collect and repair your TV, and they have all the parts.

Tell them the problem, and they will tell you the repair costs £80 to collect the TV, and diagnose the problem. They then phone you and tell you the parts cost. They only charge you the direct cost for the parts, and the original £80 covers the labour.

Very fair? It gets better. When they tell you this, ask:

"How does this relate to my rights under the Sale of Goods Act?"

They then tell you that they can do a SoGA repair. You pay the £80 up front, and if they find that the issue is not your fault, then they repair it for free, and return your £80 to you. Their definition is that if the repair would have been covered by the manufacturers warranty, they will repair it for free.

Yes. It's fantastic.

In August, I did the above, and they collected my TV from 2011. In fact, they called me to tell me that they smashed it by mistake in the end, and I had every penny I paid for it in 2011 in my bank account 48 hours later. smile

J381

Original Poster:

534 posts

212 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Fair play with the responses with my expectations of my insurance, however the fact there is a fault somewhere is my main issue with it. The history of screen replacements proves this.

J381

Original Poster:

534 posts

212 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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JustinP1 said:
I have excellent news for you my friend. This will make your day. Do this:

Phone KnowHow on 0344 561 1234. That's Curry's own repairers. Go through to the section about TVs.

The have a national centre where they collect and repair your TV, and they have all the parts.

Tell them the problem, and they will tell you the repair costs £80 to collect the TV, and diagnose the problem. They then phone you and tell you the parts cost. They only charge you the direct cost for the parts, and the original £80 covers the labour.

Very fair? It gets better. When they tell you this, ask:

"How does this relate to my rights under the Sale of Goods Act?"

They then tell you that they can do a SoGA repair. You pay the £80 up front, and if they find that the issue is not your fault, then they repair it for free, and return your £80 to you. Their definition is that if the repair would have been covered by the manufacturers warranty, they will repair it for free.

Yes. It's fantastic.

In August, I did the above, and they collected my TV from 2011. In fact, they called me to tell me that they smashed it by mistake in the end, and I had every penny I paid for it in 2011 in my bank account 48 hours later. smile
Sounds very interesting that!

I have just remembered this afternoon that it was actually Comet I bought it from. Doubt this will work for me... I will take it back to Samsung and play the Sale of Goods Act.

vx220

2,720 posts

258 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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J381 said:
Sounds very interesting that!

I have just remembered this afternoon that it was actually Comet I bought it from. Doubt this will work for me... I will take it back to Samsung and play the Sale of Goods Act.
One of those times when the "I don't need it" Extended warranty would have helped...

My understanding is the warranties still stood as a seperate company?

Is there still such a thing as "flaming" on the internet? I'm awaiting one...

98elise

31,552 posts

185 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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J381 said:
JustinP1 said:
I have excellent news for you my friend. This will make your day. Do this:

Phone KnowHow on 0344 561 1234. That's Curry's own repairers. Go through to the section about TVs.

The have a national centre where they collect and repair your TV, and they have all the parts.

Tell them the problem, and they will tell you the repair costs £80 to collect the TV, and diagnose the problem. They then phone you and tell you the parts cost. They only charge you the direct cost for the parts, and the original £80 covers the labour.

Very fair? It gets better. When they tell you this, ask:

"How does this relate to my rights under the Sale of Goods Act?"

They then tell you that they can do a SoGA repair. You pay the £80 up front, and if they find that the issue is not your fault, then they repair it for free, and return your £80 to you. Their definition is that if the repair would have been covered by the manufacturers warranty, they will repair it for free.

Yes. It's fantastic.

In August, I did the above, and they collected my TV from 2011. In fact, they called me to tell me that they smashed it by mistake in the end, and I had every penny I paid for it in 2011 in my bank account 48 hours later. smile
Sounds very interesting that!

I have just remembered this afternoon that it was actually Comet I bought it from. Doubt this will work for me... I will take it back to Samsung and play the Sale of Goods Act.
Samsung didn't sell it to you. Comet bought it from Samsung, you bought it from comet.

I'm not saying they won't help, but I'm not sure the sale of goods act applies to the manufacturer.

Countdown

47,691 posts

220 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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We bought our "Council House"-spec Samsung TV from John Lewis. IIRC they were doing a 5-year warranty at the time. Worth it IMO.

OP - like others I'm surprised you thought your house insurance would cover faulty goods confused.

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

242 months

Sunday 8th February 2015
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John Lewis have always done 5 year warranties on televisions. They also give two years as standard on other products such as iPads.

kingston12

5,687 posts

181 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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Yep, John Lewis or Richer Sounds both do a free 5 year warranty that is worth having.

I can understand the reluctance of the OP not to pay the rip off prices for Currys/Comet extended cover which often equates to a very high % of the price of the item.

As mentioned by others, a lot of house insurance policies now cover accidental damage (although it adds to the premium), but I don't think breakdown is ever covered. That would be like claiming on your car insurance when your clutch fails.

Perhaps an all inclusive insurance/warranty policy would be a worthwhile product.

maffski

1,905 posts

183 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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98elise said:
Samsung didn't sell it to you. Comet bought it from Samsung, you bought it from comet.

I'm not saying they won't help, but I'm not sure the sale of goods act applies to the manufacturer.
If it was purchased by credit card then SOGA may apply to the card issuer - http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications...