Failed headlight - Foglights are the new backup
Failed headlight - Foglights are the new backup
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DrDoofenshmirtz

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16,952 posts

231 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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So many cars are driving around with a headlight out, but not to worry...just use the old front fog light backup system instead eigh.
But the other day I went past a car who's off-side headlight was out. The side light bulb on the near side was also out. They were using the front fog lights as backup, but the nearside bulb on those was out.
The clincher was that I happened to peer into the rear view mirror as they passed, only to see that the offside rear bulb wasn't working either.
So that's four different bulbs needed.

What's the smiley for of those FFS laughs? rolleyeslaugh

Sensibleboy

1,168 posts

156 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I wonder what proportion of cars fail MOTs due to dodgy lights????

-crookedtail-

1,594 posts

221 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Not defending the numpties too much but often you need a small child, or an adult with baby hands to reach in and change the light, a joke really!

Changing the HIDs on a cold rainy night in Stoke is not I would relish either hehe

cb010

76 posts

142 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Sensibleboy said:
I wonder what proportion of cars fail MOTs due to dodgy lights????
I was just looking this up, found this - 17% apparently!

http://good-garage-guide.honestjohn.co.uk/mot-data...

MC Bodge

29,955 posts

206 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Sensibleboy said:
I wonder what proportion of cars fail MOTs due to dodgy lights????
My father in law has done many, many MOTs and says that a very large proportion have failed bulbs, incorrectly fitted (upside down) bulbs or need the headlight aim adjusting -many more than actually fail.

AlexHat

1,335 posts

150 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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The only car I give a bit of leeway towards having a blown headlight bulb is the Renault Megane (bum version) which if I remember correctly needs either a wheel off or the front bumper off to change the bulb...try doing that in the dark and cold!

MC Bodge

29,955 posts

206 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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-crookedtail- said:
Not defending the numpties too much but often you need a small child, or an adult with baby hands to reach in and change the light, a joke really!
I've managed to change the bulbs on all of our cars and I have fairly large hands.

What you really do need is to notice the bulb has failed, to care that it has failed and to bother changing it or having it changed.

blueg33

46,822 posts

255 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Audi A6 - headlight bulbs are a nightmare to change, the recommend dealer only as you have to disconnect powwer steering pump etc.

I had both fail driving home in the dark on christmas day/evening. Fog lights and mainbeam until someone came the other way were the only alternative. AA reckoned on 4 hour wait, I was 20 mins from home...

Mr Tidy

31,768 posts

158 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I think the OP was giving the numpty undeserved credit - I would be amazed if they were using foglights as back-up!!
I see so many cars with headlights and front fogs on together, plenty with just one headlight, loads with only one tail-light or a brake light out, and a fair few with rear fogs on in bright sunlight - my conclusion is that they just don't have a fcensoreding clue!!
They seem to rely on the MOT as an occasional light audit.banghead

Dave^

7,901 posts

284 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I'd happily vote for whoever insisted on 6-monthly MOTs... an extra £30 a year is a small price to pay to get these numpties to illuminate...

ohtari

805 posts

175 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Guilty, as charged...

I work about 30 miles from home, almost all free flowing motorway. Get in the car one night last november, and drive out of the company car park. I remember on the way out the gate that I was driving earlier, and made a concious decision to turn them off (subaru, they go off with the key).

"turn them on", and proceed to drive out of the industrial estate, I notice nothing wrong. I turn onto the main road, I drive onto the dual carriageway. I run out of street lights. fk.

I pull off at the first junction, and check fuses etc. Nope, bulbs blown. I go for the spare I carry in the glovebox (well prepared, me). It blows the first time I try to light it. fk. this.

15 miles to the nearest halfords, the only place open at this time that will stock bulbs. (apart from the petrol station I stopped at, which had every fking type but h1 the fking fks, or the large national car dealership across the road, because lateness. s.

foglights, sidelights and much bum twitching nerves later, I get 2 of halfords finest into the inaccessible pits that adorn the front of a blobeye impreza.

3 bulb changes in one night, a pain in the ass!

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

163 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Costs £15 max supplied and fitted by Halfords (on normal lights anyway).

Can you get points for it? It'd be harsh on one bulb but would be totally justified on 4.

peter8171

183 posts

174 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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ohtari said:
Guilty, as charged...

I work about 30 miles from home, almost all free flowing motorway. Get in the car one night last november, and drive out of the company car park. I remember on the way out the gate that I was driving earlier, and made a concious decision to turn them off (subaru, they go off with the key).

"turn them on", and proceed to drive out of the industrial estate, I notice nothing wrong. I turn onto the main road, I drive onto the dual carriageway. I run out of street lights. fk.

I pull off at the first junction, and check fuses etc. Nope, bulbs blown. I go for the spare I carry in the glovebox (well prepared, me). It blows the first time I try to light it. fk. this.

15 miles to the nearest halfords, the only place open at this time that will stock bulbs. (apart from the petrol station I stopped at, which had every fking type but h1 the fking fks, or the large national car dealership across the road, because lateness. s.

foglights, sidelights and much bum twitching nerves later, I get 2 of halfords finest into the inaccessible pits that adorn the front of a blobeye impreza.

3 bulb changes in one night, a pain in the ass!
Had the headlights go twice in my Impreza and both times the nearside has gone with the offside then blowing within 5 minutes! Agree that it's not easy to change as one side has the battery right behind and the other the ABS unit with the air intake over it!
One replacement actually exploded within 10 minutes, leaving tiny fragments of glass on the headlight which I still can't get out...

powerstroke

10,283 posts

191 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Plenty of cars with no off side lights round here
I think it should be taken very seriously it should be considered a breakdown and points on license if the car is driven, these idiots have bulbs fail then just keep driving as its only needed for the MOT init !!!!!



OldGermanHeaps

5,178 posts

209 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I didn't believe it at first, but on an e39 i had when one of the tail light bulbs went it showed up on the dash it had went, when i went round the back of the car it had turned on the fog light on that side of the car only automatically to compensate, i never touched the fog light switch and the fog light indicator on the dash never came on, it went back out when i changed the bulb, the crafty bd. When one of the front sidelight bulbs went the indicator came on dim as a backup automatically. Now if only it was clever enough to patch up its own coolant leaks maybe the mrs wouldn't have overheated it.

calibrax

4,788 posts

242 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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If I have oncoming traffic on an unlit road, and someone's headlight is out, I'd rather they had their foglights on so I can see judge the width of the car and not think it's a motorbike.

calibrax

4,788 posts

242 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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OldGermanHeaps said:
I didn't believe it at first, but on an e39 i had when one of the tail light bulbs went it showed up on the dash it had went, when i went round the back of the car it had turned on the fog light on that side of the car only automatically to compensate, i never touched the fog light switch and the fog light indicator on the dash never came on, it went back out when i changed the bulb, the crafty bd.
You sure? My MG ZT has a variant of the BMW diesel engine from the E39, and shares a lot of the same electronics, and if a rear light fails it illuminates the brake light on reduced intensity. Definitely not the fog light.

LittleEnus

3,505 posts

205 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Dave^ said:
I'd happily vote for whoever insisted on 6-monthly MOTs... an extra £30 a year is a small price to pay to get these numpties to illuminate...
I wouldn't. What an idiotic suggestion.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

191 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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LittleEnus said:
Dave^ said:
I'd happily vote for whoever insisted on 6-monthly MOTs... an extra £30 a year is a small price to pay to get these numpties to illuminate...
I wouldn't. What an idiotic suggestion.
Have you seen the state of some peoples cars???
If you drive a lorry by law you have to check lights tyres etc daily!!!!
But its OK to drive a car Every day and only check it once a year????

Dave^

7,901 posts

284 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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LittleEnus said:
Dave^ said:
I'd happily vote for whoever insisted on 6-monthly MOTs... an extra £30 a year is a small price to pay to get these numpties to illuminate...
I wouldn't. What an idiotic suggestion.
I'm not the idiot driving around with blow bulbs...