Swapping wheels on 997 C4S
Swapping wheels on 997 C4S
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JapanRed

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Sunday 8th February 2015
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Hi guys I've just put a deposit down on my first Porsche (a 2008 Gen.1 997 C4S) with these wheels. Anyone know what they are called or have a product code for them?




I really like the Turbo style alloys as shown below. Anyone know the name or product code for these too?



Are they a straight swap? Will they be the same size offsets etc?

Cheers
Rob

sidicks

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244 months

Sunday 8th February 2015
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JapanRed said:
Hi guys I've just put a deposit down on my first Porsche (a 2008 Gen.1 997 C4S) with these wheels. Anyone know what they are called or have a product code for them?


Cheers
Rob
These look like the standard Carrera S alloys - 'lobster claws'...?

Orangecurry

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Sunday 8th February 2015
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TheBMWDriver

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Sunday 8th February 2015
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The lobster alloys that are on the car now are worth around £500 on ebay (thats what I got for mine), if you keep looking you will find a set of turbo wheels for around £1500 with good tyres.

Your car is a wide body so be careful not to buy the narrow body set.

JapanRed

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Sunday 8th February 2015
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Many thanks guys. I'll check out that link now.

Does anyone know the offsets required for the C4S?
Rob

Edited by JapanRed on Sunday 8th February 20:48

c4sman

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177 months

Sunday 8th February 2015
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Don't know the offset but a couple of things to be aware of.

Pound for pound, the lobsters (official name is Carrera S wheels) you have there are a fair bit lighter than OEM Turbo (and all other period wheel options I think).

In saying that Turbo wheels are forged vs cast lobsters, so are very strong.

Please ensure you get the real deal Turbo wheels and not bendy replicas that weigh a fair bit more than all OEM wheels. You would be much better off keeping your lobsters and I quite like the paint job on your car (similar to the centre locks on my 7GTS)



Edited by c4sman on Sunday 8th February 22:43

IMIA

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224 months

Sunday 8th February 2015
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I prefer your lobster claws tbh. I may perhaps be selling my turbo alloys in the next few weeks. You're probably aware 997 turbo alloys are made by Fuchs and forged lightweight wheels.

Used to have them on my 997 turbo but replaced with BBS F1. I've never mounted them on my car since having them refinished in black with a red lip.They're
in new condition (Basalt black with a red lip) and gold Porsche crests with n rated Michelin PS2s all round again in virtually new condition. If you want the original anodised finish you're better off buying new directly from Porsche who are running special deals at £2800 inc vat with brand new tyres which is a very good deal on at OPC Hatfield when you consider a set of tyres on their own is £1000. The reason I say better to buy new if you want the original silver finish with grey two tone is the anodised wheel finish corrodes after a while or if you get a kerb mark/stone chip which is inevitable on our crap roads and they unfortunately can never be refurbished to the original diamond cut factory finish. They look a bit brighter and chrome finish after refurbing them hence why I had mine painted black.

Not my car but they now look similar to this. PM me if perhaps of interest but to be honest the lobster claws look great imo.



Edited by IMIA on Sunday 8th February 22:56

JapanRed

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Monday 9th February 2015
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Thanks for the info guys, and for the compliments on my wheels :-)
If I did go for the turbo wheels they would definitely be original Porsche and not replicas.
Thanks for the info on the Porsche Hatfield deals - I'll check them out now.

IMIA you have PM.

JapanRed

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Monday 9th February 2015
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Are the following wheels correct fitment?

2 X 8.5J X 19" 5X130 ET556

2 X 9.5J X 19" 5X130 ET46

235/35/19 FRONT
265/30/19 REAR

Seen some on eBay that are 30 mins from me.

Magic919

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Monday 9th February 2015
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No.

JapanRed

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Monday 9th February 2015
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Magic919 said:
No.
Well can you tell me what is correct please? Someone sent me a link but there are 4 different sizes for the turbo alloy.
Cheers

hondansx

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Monday 9th February 2015
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I had Turbo wheels on my C4S - and hated them! I think they lasted a weeksbefore i fitted the CH-Rs, which are not only cheaper than OEM but have a more aggressive offset and in my eyes look a ton better.



I think the problem you have is a Turbo owner is unlikely to swap over wheels from a 'lesser' 911 so you're left with a small number of wide body cars who had the Turbo wheels fitted from factory. However, as has been warned, replicas are plentiful and not good.

JapanRed

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Monday 9th February 2015
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hondansx said:
I had Turbo wheels on my C4S - and hated them! I think they lasted a weeksbefore i fitted the CH-Rs, which are not only cheaper than OEM but have a more aggressive offset and in my eyes look a ton better.



I think the problem you have is a Turbo owner is unlikely to swap over wheels from a 'lesser' 911 so you're left with a small number of wide body cars who had the Turbo wheels fitted from factory. However, as has been warned, replicas are plentiful and not good.
Cheers. Don't suppose you know the wheel rim size/Offsets etc do you?

IMIA

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Monday 9th February 2015
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JapanRed said:
hondansx said:
I had Turbo wheels on my C4S - and hated them! I think they lasted a weeksbefore i fitted the CH-Rs, which are not only cheaper than OEM but have a more aggressive offset and in my eyes look a ton better.



I think the problem you have is a Turbo owner is unlikely to swap over wheels from a 'lesser' 911 so you're left with a small number of wide body cars who had the Turbo wheels fitted from factory. However, as has been warned, replicas are plentiful and not good.
Cheers. Don't suppose you know the wheel rim size/Offsets etc do you?
If you go to http://www.rimstyle.com it searches wheels by type of car. BBS CHRs are lovely but not forged and more prone to cracking than forged wheels. Thats why they're much cheaper. BBS CHR are probably only £2000-3500 with new tyres. Forged versions from BBS for the same style wheel are double that. Having said that the BBS CHR is probably the best selling wheel BBS make.

IMIA

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Monday 9th February 2015
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Pic of 997 turbo alloys when they were on my car.




hondansx

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Monday 9th February 2015
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They are 9x19 ET53 and 12x19 ET45.

One neat addition is they come with rim protectors; if you kerb the wheels they can be taken off without any damage to the rim avoiding a costly and undesirable refurb.

They come in black, silver and a couple of variations of grey. I also think they still look smart dirty!


IMIA

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Monday 9th February 2015
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hondansx said:
They are 9x19 ET53 and 12x19 ET45.

One neat addition is they come with rim protectors; if you kerb the wheels they can be taken off without any damage to the rim avoiding a costly and undesirable refurb.

They come in black, silver and a couple of variations of grey. I also think they still look smart dirty!

Do look good. Biggest compliment I can pay them is they do not look aftermarket. Really suit the car. What springs / spacers are you running?

IMIA

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Monday 9th February 2015
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OP here's another set of BBS for even more choice which I've upgraded to. They are wider than stock.

Wheels - BBS F1
Wheel Sizes and Offsets - 19 x 8.75 ET50 and 19 x 12 ET50
Spacers - 5mm and 5mm -
Tyres- MPS Cup 2 - 245/35/19 and 325/30/19
Suspension - H&R Springs - 20mm


c4sman

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177 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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hondansx said:
They are 9x19 ET53 and 12x19 ET45.

One neat addition is they come with rim protectors; if you kerb the wheels they can be taken off without any damage to the rim avoiding a costly and undesirable refurb.

They come in black, silver and a couple of variations of grey. I also think they still look smart dirty!

To my eyes, thes look so right on the car I would definitely go for them looks wise over the turbo wheels, even though they will not be as strong as forged turbo. If I didn't have spyder centre locks, these BBS would be high up my list.

hondansx

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Tuesday 10th February 2015
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Funnily enough you can get a centre lock version of the CH-Rs. They're magnesium i believe, so expensive and not ideal for road use! Look bloody lovely though. The issue with the Spyder wheels is that they have a pretty weedy offset and do not have the same dish as the CH-Rs. It bothered me so much that i didn't get a GTS as a result.

Otherwise, my car is on H&R springs and 5mm spacers on the front.