Buying a house... Help needed
Buying a house... Help needed
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lotuslakeland

Original Poster:

10 posts

140 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Is this a good time to invest in a house in the UK with a deposit of 10-15%. We are first time buyers. Please give your thoughts.

Thank you...
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GT03ROB

14,032 posts

251 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Yes, no, maybe!!!

Nobody really knows if truth be told. The answer I'd give is forget the get rich quick property barons. You need somewhere to live. Does the cost of buying at present rates & prices make sense against the cost to rent?

Nobody knows which way prices will head, nobody knows how long rates will stay low.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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As above, nobody really knows what the property market is going to do, but due to the lack of supply, I can't see prices dropping through the floor any time soon.

If you are buying it as somewhere to live, then I wouldn't worry too much about what the market is doing, as whatever it does you will have a home, and in 10 years it's likely to be worth more than you paid for it. So long as you don't overstretch yourself, and buy a house in a decent area, then once you are on the property ladder, you are slightly more insulated by the vagaries of the market, as the prices of houses you might want to move to in the future will rise and fall at a similar rate to the one you own.

The biggest thing that i'd be thinking about, is whether your mortgage payments will remain affordable when interest rates rise again, which they are likely to, in the next year or two. If you are comfortable with that, then go for it, and good luck.


Simpo Two

92,948 posts

295 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Inkyfingers said:
The biggest thing that i'd be thinking about, is whether your mortgage payments will remain affordable when interest rates rise again, which they are likely to, in the next year or two. If you are comfortable with that, then go for it, and good luck.
I don't see interest rates rising in that term. But then again, they might, so the thing is to leave a safety margin. It's called prudence, a word misused by Gordon Brown.

But whether house values go up or down, and whatever the interest rate does, if you buy a house it does mean that your monthly loot goes into your own property and your own future -and not into a landlord's wallet. And you have a place to call your own, and a home to make, and that is just as important as money.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Simpo Two said:
Inkyfingers said:
The biggest thing that i'd be thinking about, is whether your mortgage payments will remain affordable when interest rates rise again, which they are likely to, in the next year or two. If you are comfortable with that, then go for it, and good luck.
I don't see interest rates rising in that term. But then again, they might, so the thing is to leave a safety margin. It's called prudence, a word misused by Gordon Brown.

But whether house values go up or down, and whatever the interest rate does, if you buy a house it does mean that your monthly loot goes into your own property and your own future -and not into a landlord's wallet. And you have a place to call your own, and a home to make, and that is just as important as money.
Interest rates are at a historic low, whether you think they are going to rise in the next year or two, or in 5 years is almost irelevant as their mortgage will likely last much longer than that. I can see a lot of young people who buy now, getting a nasty shock a few years down the line.

I certainly agree with you second paragraph, though.

Claudia Skies

1,098 posts

146 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Your own house should IMO be considered a "home" and not an "investment".

lotuslakeland

Original Poster:

10 posts

140 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Thanks guys for all your quick replies.

I'm more worried about the mortgage interest rates rise and also about the market. Once the Help-to-buy is discontinued there will be surely a crash as the no. of buyers will drastically get reduced. My partner & I are just worried that our savings don't go down the drain. Yeah... It's all like a big gamble.

We have liked a 3-floor terraced house in one of the best school Catchment areas which fits our budget. All the other semi detached homes in that area are way way costlier than this house.

If we buy it we will be staying in.
But if in future we rent it out, do you guys think it will be easy to get tenants? It is in a very good area but how popular are 3-floored houses?

GT03ROB

14,032 posts

251 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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lotuslakeland said:
But if in future we rent it out, do you guys think it will be easy to get tenants? It is in a very good area but how popular are 3-floored houses?
Its location dependent first & foremost. We have a 3 floor terraced rented out. Never been empty.

lotuslakeland

Original Poster:

10 posts

140 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Thanks GT03ROB. It is so reassuring to know that smile

covmutley

3,377 posts

220 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Supply is not matching demand and interest rates are low. I cant see that it is a bad time to buy a home.

Sir Bagalot

7,107 posts

211 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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You are buying a Home, not an investment.

lotuslakeland said:
My partner & I are just worried that our savings don't go down the drain.
In the last 80's I bought a house for £X. I put down a 12.5 deposit. Within 18 months the house was worth only two thirds what I paid for it. My deposit was effectively gone. And in real terms a sum equal to twice my deposit was also gone!!

Today that house is worth 4 x £X. Fortunately I kept it. Unfortunately when prices crashed I didn't buy more!!

lotuslakeland

Original Poster:

10 posts

140 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Compared to the last year the house prices have become a bit more stable. Where I live, the houses that were listed in October are still on market.

I always follow the "Don't buy from others' money". Have a credit card which I hardly ever use. With the house prices today, I can't afford anything with just my money. Going for a huge mortgage has surely made me very anxious and a lil sad. But I can't just keep giving £600/month rent all my life . Wish I'd never grown up. Life was so much fun & simple back then when we were kids.

lotuslakeland

Original Poster:

10 posts

140 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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@Sir Bagalot
Don't regret that you did not buy when the market crashed.
I'm sure you worked hard for the 12.5 deposit and getting much more than what you put in... You are indeed very fortunate. Enjoy it.

I'll be over the moon if i can just buy one proper house paying the correct price.

FrankAbagnale

1,842 posts

142 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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When you say you have a 10-15% deposit - what is the cash amount? The % deposit is relative to the price of property.

If you can go for a cheaper property in a growth area and pay down a bigger % deposit, your mortgage options open up significantly.

lotuslakeland

Original Poster:

10 posts

140 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Got £250K on AIP. But we prefer to buy anything around 190K - £200K.
10-15% deposit is the money from our account what we have earned.
The house we liked is in a good school catchment and is priced at £200K.

Sir Bagalot

7,107 posts

211 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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lotuslakeland said:
@Sir Bagalot
Don't regret that you did not buy when the market crashed.
I'm sure you worked hard for the 12.5 deposit and getting much more than what you put in... You are indeed very fortunate. Enjoy it.

I'll be over the moon if i can just buy one proper house paying the correct price.
st happens. During the tech bubble I bought £5K worth of shares. Within 12-18 months they were worth £82K. Did I sell them? Did I fk. Did I set a stop-loss? Did I fk? Did they crash and I sold them for about £1K? Of course I fking did.

With houses I have managed to get the purchases after correct. Last place I bought was March 13. Easy 25% profit within 18 months.

Ilovejapcrap

3,311 posts

142 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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My house is worth the same as 7 yrs ago.

Apart from areas the papers likes to talk about like London which seems mental and can only end in tears it's not changed much in Yorkshire.

I personally don't think prices will alter much of an amount for quite some time. Just my view

barryrs

5,044 posts

253 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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lotuslakeland said:
It is in a very good area but how popular are 3-floored houses?
Just a quick comment on 3 storey dwellings.

Is it a modern 3 storey townhouse?

These make fine rentals but I wouldn't recommend buying one as the living accommodation is disproportionate on the ground floor to the bedrooms and feel cramped.

Simpo Two

92,948 posts

295 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Sir Bagalot said:
In the last 80's I bought a house for £X. I put down a 12.5 deposit. Within 18 months the house was worth only two thirds what I paid for it. My deposit was effectively gone. And in real terms a sum equal to twice my deposit was also gone!!

Today that house is worth 4 x £X. Fortunately I kept it. Unfortunately when prices crashed I didn't buy more!!
- the salient point to the OP being that if you're going to stay there for a decent while, it doesn't matter what happens to property values. It's all just paper. If when you sell there's been a crash and it's halved in value, guess what? The house you want to buy next is also half price. You only crystallise the gain or loss when you enter or leave the housing market (and to a certain extent if you change area of course).

As for interest rates, which determine the real money bit (your monthly repayment), nobody knows what they will be in 10 or 20 years' time. But the weather is set very fair for now and the base rate is heading to zero so there's no reason not to do it.