Rolling diameter difference
Rolling diameter difference
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Manolis1978

Original Poster:

110 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Hi guys

I would like to ask if a Rolling diameter difference of 2.8% is ok. If not WHY.?

QBee

22,470 posts

173 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Manolis1978 said:
Hi guys

I would like to ask if a Rolling diameter difference of 2.8% is ok. If not WHY.?
Please explain- do you mean between left and right sides, or front and rear, or for a spare wheel?
What are you trying to do?

Then we can advise you properly

Manolis1978

Original Poster:

110 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Sorry.... You r right.... front to rear

I am changing from standard wheels to 17 all around 215/40/17 front & 235/40/17 rear

QBee

22,470 posts

173 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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The standard set up on Chims....well there are several.

My car came with 205/55 15 front and 225/50 16 rears
That's 606mm front and 631mm rear rolling diameter. 25mm (one inch) difference
Your proposal is 603mm front and 619mm rear, 16mm difference, so 9mm different to standard, which is half the 8mm tread depth of a new tyre.

In other words, not enough of a difference to bother you, so should be ok.

In theory your speedo will read 1mph faster at 70 mph.....if you can even read it that accurately at that speed!

One question - what width wheels are you using? 7J? 7.5J?

QBee

22,470 posts

173 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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PS, I am currently running 215/40 17 front and 215/45 17 rear on my car - handles brilliantly. That set up is 21.5 mm different front to rear.

TA14

14,332 posts

287 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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QBee said:
The standard set up on Chims....well there are several.

My car came with 205/55 15 front and 225/50 16 rears
That's 606mm front and 631mm rear rolling diameter. 25mm (one inch) difference
Your proposal is 603mm front and 619mm rear, 16mm difference, so 9mm different to standard, which is half the 8mm tread depth of a new tyre.

In other words, not enough of a difference to bother you, so should be ok.

In theory your speedo will read 1mph faster at 70 mph.....if you can even read it that accurately at that speed!

One question - what width wheels are you using? 7J? 7.5J?
Note the first sentence of this reply.

As a footnote, you can play about with the numbers all day, for example if you take the original fronts fitted to this chassis (what the rolling chassis was designed for) then you get:-
http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=215&amp...

Manolis1978

Original Poster:

110 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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QBee said:
The standard set up on Chims....well there are several.

My car came with 205/55 15 front and 225/50 16 rears
That's 606mm front and 631mm rear rolling diameter. 25mm (one inch) difference
Your proposal is 603mm front and 619mm rear, 16mm difference, so 9mm different to standard, which is half the 8mm tread depth of a new tyre.

In other words, not enough of a difference to bother you, so should be ok.

In theory your speedo will read 1mph faster at 70 mph.....if you can even read it that accurately at that speed!

One question - what width wheels are you using? 7J? 7.5J?
It is the Dare DR-STR which is 17x7.5

QBee

22,470 posts

173 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Manolis1978 said:
It is the Dare DR-STR which is 17x7.5
7.5 J is perfect for both those tyre widths

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/tyre-size-for-ri...

brett84

1,291 posts

182 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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are you running 595's Anthony? How do you find them?
I've ordered some 17x7 and 17x8 Compomotives so need to get tyres now and I was thinking of going 595s. Just unsure on sizes as every tyre seems to be slightly different wall height etc

QBee

22,470 posts

173 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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brett84 said:
are you running 595's Anthony? How do you find them?
I've ordered some 17x7 and 17x8 Compomotives so need to get tyres now and I was thinking of going 595s. Just unsure on sizes as every tyre seems to be slightly different wall height etc
Personally, I love them.
Nice inexpensive tyres, and I find they are as good on track as Toyo R888s, as they give more feel when close to the limit of adhesion - I have stopped having spins since fitting them.
I also like them on the road, as they have plenty of grip but can deal with a damp surface. Not recommended in really wet conditions, so depends on when and where you use the car.
They have a fairly low load index (mine are 83 front and 87 rear) so that means more flexible sidewalls, which in turn means that they offset the lower profile you have with 17 inch wheels and gives you a more comfortable ride.

You want 595 RS-Rs, by the way. There are about three different versions of 595s, so choose the right one.

There is an often reported issue with them - you can end up with a shallow crack across the tread. I have had this on my rears, not my fronts. It seems to happen and then stay the same, and doesn't seem to cause any issues, but is quite alarming when you first see it.


brett84

1,291 posts

182 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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excellent thank you.
what size did you go for?
I was thinking 215/40/17 front and 235/45/17 rears?

I'm going to run it over to Mat Smiths for a geo once fitted as well

QBee

22,470 posts

173 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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brett84 said:
excellent thank you.
what size did you go for?
I was thinking 215/40/17 front and 235/45/17 rears?

I'm going to run it over to Mat Smiths for a geo once fitted as well
I bought the tyres off a friend, so I have 215/40 on the front and 215/45 on the rear - no choice, they were what i was offered.
I think the fronts are fine, you could go for 215/45 fronts if you like. The rears should be fine, as the Federals are not as square shouldered, or oversized, as Toyo 888s. I say that because I have had issues with 235/40 18 Toyos catching on the arches. They are the same rolling diameter as the ones you suggest, as near as damn it.

Are you on standard Bilsteins, or after market adjustable dampers?

brett84

1,291 posts

182 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Thank you.
I've just been looking around at prices and R1R's aren't too bad and from what i'm reading might be better for road use (it will mainly be road). I'll have a proper look later and see what prices I can get and sizes
I've got Gaz Monos

QBee

22,470 posts

173 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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brett84 said:
Thank you.
I've just been looking around at prices and R1R's aren't too bad and from what i'm reading might be better for road use (it will mainly be road). I'll have a proper look later and see what prices I can get and sizes
I've got Gaz Monos
R1Rs will have better wet grip, better all around grip. They could overheat on a hot dry track day, but good for road use.
The Monos will adjust enough to clear any catching issues with the 235 rears, I believe.

Mr Haribo

318 posts

218 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Good find for that web site bow

OleVix

1,438 posts

177 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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245/40r17 or 225/45r17 will be more correct and the same rolling diameter as 225/50r16

brett84

1,291 posts

182 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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thanks, I didn't think 245s would fit under standard arches?
I thought 235s would be about the max?

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Manolis1978 said:
Sorry.... You r right.... front to rear

I am changing from standard wheels to 17 all around 215/40/17 front & 235/40/17 rear
You want 235/45/17 rears

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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brett84 said:
excellent thank you.
what size did you go for?
I was thinking 215/40/17 front and 235/45/17 rears?

I'm going to run it over to Mat Smiths for a geo once fitted as well
Thats what i am running on my other set ,you can also go for 215/45/17 on the front

You will feel the road surface more with Federal RSR 595`s tyres .

Federal 235`s are wider than my Falken 245`s

If you are driving mainly on the road why not go for Toyo R1R`s


Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Wednesday 11th February 21:08

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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brett84 said:
excellent thank you.
what size did you go for?
I was thinking 215/40/17 front and 235/45/17 rears?

I'm going to run it over to Mat Smiths for a geo once fitted as well
Thats what i am running on my other set ,you can also go for 215/45/17 on the front

You will feel the road surface more with Federal RSR 595`s tyres .

Federal 235`s are wider than my Falken 245`s

If you are driving mainly on the road why not go for Toyo T1R`s


Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Wednesday 11th February 21:09